Realization

[John9]

4 hours ago, KayC said:

Well, Peggy's house is listed, 1/2 what it would have gone for when she died, but everything takes time, banks, courts, etc., meanwhile inflation did it's number, but at least it's done now.  Not even at where you are with closing the estate, all to come, who knows what year!

KayC,

Glad that the Peggy's estate is at least moving forward. I know that everything is now "market" dependent, and also condition makes a big difference also. Both of my friends houses and MIL's house also were in need of repairs and that made a big difference in what I/we could get. But also each was a financial drain sitting empty. And yes the prices of everything has gone through the roof, except when you need to sell a house quickly. I am glad that Panther seems to be doing okay. How is your Sister doing, did the medication help her. It has been very emotional lately, for no specific reason other than "grief" Take care, John

[April Ballou]

@KayC Panther kitty looks a lot like my cat Heatcliff.  The thing about wild cats is just as long as they are healthy that all.  I'm glad that you were able to get Peggy's house listed.  I will pray that it goes at a good price and hopefully quickly.  I'm glad that the fire situation is over.  God is definitely watching over you. 

[KayC]

14 hours ago, John9 said:

How is your Sister doing, did the medication help her

All she can take is Tylenol and it does nothing to touch the pain, she's in bed 22 hours/day and bored, can't read or watch tv because of the pain she's in.  She never was one to sit, always going, planning her social life, now nothing. 

No communication with my brother, apparently Julie has seen the house (must have been pictures as she hasn't been here) after they cleaned it out, she said it looked really nice.  I don't want to see it without Peggy there, it is hard hitting to think of.

15 hours ago, Gail 8588 said:

Panther will probably benefit from a few extra pounds during the upcoming winter.   

That's what I'm thinking!

14 hours ago, April Ballou said:

I will pray that it goes at a good price and hopefully quickly.

It's going to nine nieces and nephews so it won't be much divided.  

Is Heathcliff a feral cat too?  A guy down the street thinks he's his but the 29 year old boy that he takes care of (Autistic/Aspergers) says he's not, he came and looked at him.  Anyway, cats pick their owners and it's been seven months...he pointed out a sibling of their missing cat, much smaller.  And Panther doesn't meow, he squeaks, and drools, older, so not the same cat or he would have mentioned that.  

[John9]

3 hours ago, KayC said:

All she can take is Tylenol and it does nothing to touch the pain, she's in bed 22 hours/day and bored, can't read or watch tv because of the pain she's in.  She never was one to sit, always going, planning her social life, now nothing. 

KayC,

That is terrible, that she can't have anything that helps the pain. I am guessing that she can only take Tylenol because of other medical issues. I understand what you say about your Sister, my loving wife and I hated forced change. And what your Sister is going through is one of the worst forced changes that there is. Any sort of medical issue that causes that sort of disruption of your life, messes with you in every way. I can only hope that she recovers soon, but I know there is no way to know that. And yes looking at Peggy's house and her not there, wouldn't be the same and would just add to your sadness/grief.

It's funny what you say about cats picking there owner. My loving wife would always get "mad" at me because all of our animals seemed to sit with me more. I think it was because I was always warmer than she was as far as body temperature. One thing that my loving wife had said she was going to do was make sure that "her" kittens loved her more. She was trying to train them and give them treats and show them extra attention. Sadly that didn't last very long as she only had about 6 months to be with them. But I do have pictures of them climbing all over her. And these 2 cats are not like any other ones we ever had, very independent, and very troublesome as far as being inquisitive. They want to open cupboards and drawers and 1 of them is always trying to get behind the pictures on the walls.

[KayC]

So she left you with mischievous cats!   I love it, that's funny.  I imagine that's how Panther would be if I let him in, he can sure wreak havoc out on the patio, scratching my ramp and patio posts, ignoring the cat scratchers, picked his own sleeping time (daytime)  but he's a great patio cat otherwise, and we have a routine with him, I go out and spend time with him out there.  

I have no idea how Julie is getting through this, one of the hardest times of her life!  That and having a baby born without a brain, only to lose her nearly two years later.  She's had her share of positive times and her share of really hard times, she's lived life to the fullest, and I pray she comes out on the other side of this....soon.

[John9]

KayC,

Yes, my loving wife left her cats to torture me until who knows how long. 🤔 I am glad you are able to spend time with Panther, my loving wife's cats sleep almost all day and are active when I want or need quiet time. They always wake up and "talk" whenever I get up to go to the bathroom at night and then run around for awhile too. I do hope Julie can get some sort of relief for her pain, or hopefully it will lessen quickly. I don't really know anything about the condition, just that it another of the medical issues nobody wants to have to deal with. Take care, John

[April Ballou]

On 11/2/2022 at 6:47 AM, KayC said:

All she can take is Tylenol and it does nothing to touch the pain, she's in bed 22 hours/day and bored, can't read or watch tv because of the pain she's in.  She never was one to sit, always going, planning her social life, now nothing. 

No communication with my brother, apparently Julie has seen the house (must have been pictures as she hasn't been here) after they cleaned it out, she said it looked really nice.  I don't want to see it without Peggy there, it is hard hitting to think of.

That's what I'm thinking!

It's going to nine nieces and nephews so it won't be much divided.  

Is Heathcliff a feral cat too?  A guy down the street thinks he's his but the 29 year old boy that he takes care of (Autistic/Aspergers) says he's not, he came and looked at him.  Anyway, cats pick their owners and it's been seven months...he pointed out a sibling of their missing cat, much smaller.  And Panther doesn't meow, he squeaks, and drools, older, so not the same cat or he would have mentioned that.  

Heathcliff isn't a feral cat.  But he is picky about who pets and holds him.  I guess because he's 10 years old.  I praying for your sister.  I hope all is well.

[John9]

Today is 20 months since my loving wife died, and 61 years since my Mother died and then there is the fact it is Veterans day which reminds me of the death of my step-Brother who died in Vietnam and I know that Veterans day is for those who served and not really for those who died, but it reminds me of him. And my friend was in the Air National Guard for a few years, many years ago as well. But anyway it hasn't been a great week, very emotional and very sad as well. It isn't getting any easier for me, it really seems to be harder as each day passes and the time change didn't help. Too dark, too early. My loving wife hated when later in the year when she would go to work in the dark and come home in the dark. And how after eating dinner it being so dark just made her want to nap. All I know is that now it makes the long lonely nights even longer. And I am already dreading the Holiday season, because of all of the commercials. I had to change my radio station that I usually listen to because they switched to Christmas music until after the New year. Just writing to vent a little. Take care, John

[KayC]

John, I am so sorry you lost your brother to Vietnam..  My son went into the Air Force Nov. 11, twenty years ago.  He went through survivor's guilt because he knew young men that died while he didn't.  My dad was in WWII, saw/experienced horrific things, it's why he drank.  My kids' dad was in Vietnam, saw his friend (like a brother) step on a mine right after they got off the plane.  That was it.  It changed him.  My grandpa was in WWI, my sister has his letters to my grandma back home.

I can't believe they're starting Christmas movies and advertising now, people putting up trees, it used to wait until after Thanksgiving, now it's Halloween or even sooner!  I could put up a tree, but all it'd be is work I have to undo and it wouldn't bring holiday cheer.  It's just not the same without them here, is it.

My left heel has been unbearable, started Sunday, can't find anything visibly wrong but finally spotted tiny cracks in it from the dry weather, I always wear shoes/socks so it surprised me.  Need to religiously moisturize I guess.  Tried Epsom soaks, didn't help.  I could hardly walk Thursday, more like limping, very painful.  Having to miss a funeral today and church tomorrow to stay home and off of it.  Have to go out of town to doctor and get groceries Wednesday.

I'm sorry you had to change your radio station. 
 

 

[John9]

KayC,

Thank you. I had a terrible night last night. I think I have food poisoning, woke up to terrible cramping and spent all night off and on in the bathroom. Sitting or hugging the toilet. I am still off today, I think I pulled a stomach muscle while hugging the toilet. I have spent all day either in bed or on the couch, fearful of not making it to the bathroom. Definitely feeling off. It has been snowing all afternoon, it was in the 60's yesterday. Take care, John

[KayC]

Oh John, I am so sorry!  My friend went through that a while back, he got it bad, lasted about two days, won't eat at that restaurant again!  Saying a prayer for you, my friend!  I hope it's not piling up (snow) too much.

[Gail 8588]

John, 

So sorry you are so sick. It is a terrible feeling to have food poisoning.  And when you are alone and in grief it is especially hard.

In the years since my husband died, I have been most depressed when I have been sick. Self care is a poor substitute for having your soulmate by your side.  Sadly, it's all we have.

Get well soon.

Gail

[KayC]

41 minutes ago, Sim7079 said:

The holiday season is also making me emotional too.

Is it just me or does anyone else want to put up a sign in their yard that says Bah Humbug!

[AJ4]

I want to start celebrating Christmas Dec. 21, not before.  Yes, Bah humbug to any Christmas things before Thanksgiving!  

[John9]

KayC,

Thank you, I feel a little better BUT it feels like I was run over by a truck or a train. That is how my loving wife used to describe working all day Mondays after having the weekend off. We got around 2 inches here, but it is mostly gone because the ground was so warm. I guess I will avoid eating at any places for awhile and cook whatever I eat, not that I eat out much. Take care, John

[John9]

4 hours ago, KayC said:

Is it just me or does anyone else want to put up a sign in their yard that says Bah Humbug!

KayC,

I don't like the early starting of the Holidays because it make my grief so much worse(if possible). But I do hope anyone who can celebrate and enjoys celebrating does so. Sadly the Holidays used to be one of my favorite times of the year, even before my loving wife and I met. But after being together for 35 years and being so connected, I really hate all of it now. I don't want to be a Scrooge or a Grinch, but this existence just hurts so much now, the overwhelming loneliness and seeing all of the happy couples hurts too. John

[John9]

4 hours ago, Sim7079 said:

The holiday season is also making me emotional too. It was such a special and nice  time before, just not the same.

Sim7079,

Sadly it isn't just the Holidays that aren't the same, they just seem worse than all of the other miserable days. I have days that it seems all I do is cry, for no reason except for the obvious one, that I miss my loving wife so much. But I feel I am barely functional even on my best days. Take care, John

[John9]

17 hours ago, Gail 8588 said:

In the years since my husband died, I have been most depressed when I have been sick. Self care is a poor substitute for having your soulmate by your side.  Sadly, it's all we have.

Gail 8588,

I know that as I was unable to sleep, my broken brain was not helping me at all. I miss my loving wife more and more each day and night, but it was really bad the other night. Not that I would have wanted her to be worried about me or missing any sleep but there would have been no way she wouldn't have been there for me. It just hurts so much in every way all of the time. Take care, John

[KayC]

1 hour ago, John9 said:

Sadly the Holidays used to be one of my favorite times of the year,

It was George's.  I've decorated every year for him.  Not like anyone ever comes here and sees it but I do it to honor him.  I suppose that means I'll have to again this year.  But I sure hate people rushing it.  How happy can it be?  It feels like my life is a ghost life, memories of the past, long gone, no one ever comes over...I miss my kids being here but too far and too busy.

I'm sorry you feel like you got hit by a truck.  Hopefully tomorrow you'll be on the mend.

[Gail 8588]

This will be my 6th Christmas without John.  The first three years I was a complete zombie. I have no recollection of what  I did. Just went through the motions. I think I put up my artificial tree each year, but with no happiness.  Just drudgery.

Year four I remember because it was such a complete disaster.  I had my 2 sons, my daughter in law, and my barely 2 year old grandson here for Christmas dinner and gift exchange. Everyone except the baby was sick. Some with Covid some with just a flu. The ones with covid couldn't even taste the food. My DIL took so much over the counter medication trying to mask her symptoms, to not ruin Christmas for me, that she literally broke out in hives at dinner.  Absolutely none of us wanted to be "doing" Christmas, but we all tried to put on a merry face for the holiday. It was so ridiculous four adults with fevers and aches barely able to sit up in chairs. The worst Christmas ever.  The next week we all promised each other that we would never do that again.

Last year was better (could not have been worse than the year before.) But it still felt forced and rushed.  I would very much like this Christmas to be happy in a laid back comfortable way.  Not sure that is a goal I will ever achieve, let alone this year.

I frequently keep my 3 year old (4 in December) grandson overnight.  I have already started singing Christmas carols and explaining the Christmas story to him.  He has never been to church, but his parents were both raised Presbyterian. 

Anyway, I am thinking about getting my decorations up early this year, particularly the nativity creche, so my grandson can hold the baby Jesus  and all the other figures.  I want him to know Christmas is not just about Rudolph, Santa and presents.  

This is the first Christmas that I want to bake.  There is something very grounding in baking bread for the holidays.  It takes time and patience. I want this year to be that kind of Christmas.

Gail

[Robert D.]

Gail 8588

  

22 minutes ago, Gail 8588 said:

I want him to know Christmas is not just about Rudolph, Santa and presents.  

This is true.....the One (Jesus Christ) whose birthday is celebrated at that time should be invited to His own celebration....

Here's wishing you and your family a very happy and healthy Christmas time!!

Robert

[April Ballou]

This year makes 3 Thanksgiving and Christmas without Darrell.  The first year at Thanksgiving my children, grandchildren,  and myself celebrated Thanksgiving at my son's house.  The first Christmas I went to my brother in laws house and celebrated if that's what you call it.  I was  miserable.   Last year my children and grandchildren came here for Thanksgiving.   And for Christmas I went back to my brother in laws, won't go back.  I realize that Darrells family is his family not mine, even after 38 years of marriage.   I don't feel welcome around them.  This year I'm not sure what's going to happen.  My children seem too busy to want to get together for Thanksgiving.   And as far as Christmas,  I may just stay at home alone. I have accepted being alone.  I guess that's how things are supposed to be.  Everyone rip running around.  At first I had people calling or texting me to check on me, now the only way I hear from anyone is if I call or text them.  

[KayC]

Last year all but TG I was snowed in, literally...every single holiday.  Hoping I can make TG to my son's, it's three hours, a very remote area, hard to find.  Christmas is always wait and see, as is Easter.  Even Mother's Day I was shoveling snow although in past years we never had snow that late.  They're saying this year will be like last, God help us.  

[KayC]

Woke up thinking about @tnd this morning.  Wishing I could find out something about what happened to her but without her actual name, I'm afraid we're out of luck.  Only ones who'd have that are the administrators from when she signed in and I doubt they're going to help us.  I just wish I knew, is there an obituary?  As they require payment, I doubt it.  But a death notice maybe.  I wonder what happened to her cats.  I wish I could have gotten her out here, we (my church) would have looked after her and taken care of her needs.  But she couldn't travel she said.  I just feel so bad.

So important to let SOMEONE in the group know your actual name, email, phone, something!

The last time she visited here was June 11.  That was the last time we heard from her.  What did those people do to her?  Was there a blow up?  No indication, nothing, it just sounded a dangerous place to be in.

[Roxeanne]

I'm also think at her sometimes...at her sufference at her strenght at her desperation....she's so brave! Whatever happened to her i think it was her decision...but i'm so sorry that we couldn't offer a way of escape to her and her cats....feeling very bad for that!

[Sparky1]

I've also thought about her once in a while and because there has been no activity, I fear what could have happened. We are so vulnerable as we get older, I dread not being able to take care of myself.

[John9]

4 hours ago, KayC said:

Woke up thinking about @tnd this morning.  Wishing I could find out something about what happened to her but without her actual name, I'm afraid we're out of luck.  Only ones who'd have that are the administrators from when she signed in and I doubt they're going to help us.  I just wish I knew, is there an obituary?  As they require payment, I doubt it.  But a death notice maybe.  I wonder what happened to her cats.  I wish I could have gotten her out here, we (my church) would have looked after her and taken care of her needs.  But she couldn't travel she said.  I just feel so bad.

So important to let SOMEONE in the group know your actual name, email, phone, something!

The last time she visited here was June 11.  That was the last time we heard from her.  What did those people do to her?  Was there a blow up?  No indication, nothing, it just sounded a dangerous place to be in.

KayC,

I also was thinking about tnd AND OldTrojan as well, thinking that as much as it is painful to lose anyone, the not knowing weighs on our minds and already broken hearts. We do come to care for each other and even if we all may want to be with our loved ones again, those left behind may always wonder what happened. You do have my email address from a previous communication, IF you still have access to it. I was on another forum where someone had died and the Grandson had notified the people on the forum. I would hop Our Son would do that but I really doubt he will. All I can say is that I will probably be here as long as I can, because I feel I will always need the support I have received. So if I disappear, it will be because I am unable to post for whatever reason. Hopefully this doesn't sound too morbid, but I don't know how else to state my feelings about the topic.

I still don't feel 100% after my "food poisoning", still off but still existing. Take care, John

[Gail 8588]

I do miss hearing from tnd. She was so incredibly determined and overall positive despite her many hardships. 

There are several folks I would love to hear an update from; such as the young man who lost his wife in child birth. His Canadian MIL wanted to raise the baby. He was struggling with whether to move back to the US, New Orleans I think, with his infant son.  I hope he and his child are doing okay. Another man was so terribly grief stricken after his wife and children all died in a house fire while he was at work. 

We have contact with people during their darkest hours. We provide what comfort we can. But too often we don't know if they made their way through this torment.

I hope they each are able to find a way forward.  

Tnd is a little different because I do believe that is she was alive she would find a way to update us.  I hope she is resting in peace having reunited with her beloved husband.

Gail 

 

[KayC]

20 hours ago, John9 said:

AND OldTrojan as well

Me too.  Didn't say anything here because he wasn't know here but by you and I and maybe Annie.  But I'm surprised we never heard from him, perhaps he isn't getting notices through email.  But I often wonder how he's doing.

11 hours ago, Gail 8588 said:

such as the young man who lost his wife in child birth. His Canadian MIL wanted to raise the baby. He was struggling with whether to move back to the US

Yes!  I thought of him also the other day and couldn't remember his username or exactly when he was on, but perhaps someday he will check in with us.  And there's another guy named Darrell I've wondered about over the years, he was at both my sites, his wife died years ago, he was homeless for a while, but moved around a bit, I remember he had her monkey (service animal).

So hard to get close to and then lose these people but I guess it's part of it.  I think the people tnd were living with had something to do with her disappearance, I think something abruptly happened to her.  I don't think it was of her own volition.  She was such a positive determined person but the cards were stacked against her, it kills me to think of it.  But it was choices she made, I think she trusted these people too much and got herself painted into a corner, I don't trust them as far as I can spit.

11 hours ago, Gail 8588 said:

I hope she is resting in peace having reunited with her beloved husband.

Me too, and I know she is, if that is what happened...and I'm afraid it is.  I love/d her.  

[Roxeanne]

So sad anyway...she was so alone! Not even her brother helped her...i understand if at certain moment she decided she had enough...hope you are happy now Tnd

[John9]

I have read other posts on other forums, where some people are at the "stage" where they only read and no longer post or comment because they say they have nothing positive to post. That is of course their right, but I think that I need to express any feelings that I have, even the bad ones. I know that without these forums I would maybe not be here, and even though that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, I am here until whomever decides I have suffered enough. I do agree that I think tnd, would have found some way to be in touch IF she could, and she seemed to have a determination to survive even though she was having a hard time. I know I miss her positive comments to me and also to others here. Take care, John

[KayC]

21 hours ago, Roxeanne said:

So sad anyway...she was so alone! Not even her brother helped her...i understand if at certain moment she decided she had enough...hope you are happy now Tnd

I doubt she took her own life, she had an inner strength and nothing indicated that.  But it was a volatile family with a husband & son that were eruptive, even the lady, and that speaks higher to me than her taking her own life.  Besides, she would never desert her cats.

20 hours ago, John9 said:

I know I miss her positive comments to me and also to others here.

Me too, John.

[Roxeanne]

4 hours ago, KayC said:

I doubt she took her own life, she had an inner strength and nothing indicated that. 

Yes Kay i don't know what to think...

In her late posts there was something very worrying

I am sure only of one thing...she would have written here if only she could...

Her long silence is frightening

[Gail 8588]

5 hours ago, KayC said:

I doubt she took her own life, ...

I agree, I don't think Tnd would have taken her own life.  She might have died from foul play, but she could have died from a medical emergency that was or was not addressed in a timely fashion, or died in her sleep peacefully. 

I hope it was that last one. 

Gail

[foreverhis]

I think of tnd often. At first I hoped she was finally moving and hadn’t the time to write or perhaps didn’t have internet set up.

But now I’m convinced that family did something to her. She didn’t seem to be the type to ever give up and I agree she wouldn’t have intentionally left her cats. I worry for them as well. I think she would be with us if she could, especially because she stopped posting so abruptly. Perhaps she was released quietly in her sleep. That is at least some comfort.

I wish she would have let us help her. She had an enviable inner strength to keep going the way she did. I hope so much that she is at peace, resting from the pain of her world. 

[John9]

I would like to extend a Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate. Take care, John

[Robert D.]

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on the site!! God bless you all!!

[April Ballou]

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.  I hope that everyone can be with family.   I will be alone.   

Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.  I hope that everyone can be with family.   I will be alone.   

[KayC]

Thank you, John.  I'm  thankful no accidents on the Hwy & Fwy, it was very icy on the way over, long trip..  It was good to see my daughter & her BF, as well as my son and grandkids.  Long day.

[Ronni_W]

KayC, you just reminded me of my mom. (She passed in June of 2021.) No matter what good or bad had happened during her outing, she always ended up her day saying to me, "Boy, that was a long day!" I never knew if she meant "good long" or "bad long", but that's what she always said, and I got reminded of it.   Ronni

[Gail 8588]

Hello everyone, 

I have had a good, and sometimes hard, 6th Thanksgiving without my husband. We have had an extended family gathering starting Tuesday and ending today with my husband's entire family. (His siblings with spouses, all their children an spouses, all the grandchildren, both my boys with their families. 34 in all.)

Everyone spoke often of my husband (not the grandkids as they were too young to remember him) Retelling Uncle Johnny stories, laughing, missing him in their own way.  All of that was very nice. I wished he could still be among us, but it was not a painful missing. 

The hard part was that my husband's brother is seriously ill and that it is likely this is his last Thanksgiving. His wife and I talked. That was hard.  His daughters talked with me. That was hard.  My heart breaks for what they are approaching. There is no easy path forward. 

Gail

[KayC]

5 hours ago, Ronni_W said:

KayC, you just reminded me of my mom.

A long day to me can mean in a bad way but can also mean in a good way and this one went well, but it was taxing also, esp. to this 70 year old body!

21 minutes ago, Gail 8588 said:

The hard part was that my husband's brother is seriously ill and that it is likely this is his last Thanksgiving.

Oh Gail, I am so sorry for what you and they are going through with anticipatory grief!  I know it to be a special but also very hard time to go through as I went through Arlie's journey, it was the hardest thing in the world...not comparing a dog, just saying he was my soulmate/companion and losing him was awful.  My heart goes out to your family, will keep them in my prayers.

[April Ballou]

I have come to the realization that I am alone.   Everyone has their own life to live.  And this is mine.  Trying to decide if I want to join my husband's family for the Christmas get-together.   I need prayer.

[Kevin O]

April.  I too have come to the realization that I am alone.  And like you I too have a Christmas option.  I can go to my niece's home and be with family.  But someone will be missing this year.  And while I've never been a big holiday fan, Bob loved Christmas eve and Christmas day.  So I will miss the fact that he is missing those days for the first time.  And what makes it worse is that Christmas falls on a Sunday so I am 'forced' to have a 3 day weekend.  Two days are too long.  

[Raelyn]

John9 I know how you feel. I spend my days like you. My husband and I had so many plans with growing old together and now that's not going to happen. 

[April Ballou]

@Kevin O yeah I have gone 2 weeks without seeing anyone except my church friends.   But I know they all have lives.  When alone it doesn't seem like a life.  I'm just going through the motions most of the time.

[Robert D.]

April Ballou

I'm sorry about your lonliness...it is really difficult. I lifted you up in prayer!! God bless!!

Robert 

[Kevin O]

Yep. Just going through the motions. Wednesday night it hit me that I hadn't seen or spoke to anyone since Sunday. (I make myself go visit family every Sunday just to be around people.) It made me wonder if that's my new normal. I'm an introvert to begin with and since I work from home now I'm starting to realize how isolated I am now that he's gone. Missing the little things. The good mornings, the good nights, the God bless you for a sneeze. The stuff that was so insignificant but what I now know makes a person feel less alone. 

[John9]

5 hours ago, Raelyn said:

John9 I know how you feel. I spend my days like you. My husband and I had so many plans with growing old together and now that's not going to happen. 

Raelyn,

I am unsure if I have expressed my condolences for you loss, but I am sorry. I am now going through the Holidays for the second time and it is no easier for me. The next few months will be hard and even though our Son lives here, I hardly see him and we barely talk. So it is almost like being in solitary confinement, most days I talk more to my Amazon devices than I do to any humans. This existence is not what my loving wife and I thought the future held for us. Take care, John

[John9]

On 11/25/2022 at 6:59 AM, KayC said:

Thank you, John.  I'm  thankful no accidents on the Hwy & Fwy, it was very icy on the way over, long trip..  It was good to see my daughter & her BF, as well as my son and grandkids.  Long day.

KayC,

I am glad that you managed to have a safe trip to see your family. I haven't heard from any of my loving wife's family in months, the last call being from my loving wife's Cousin in September. I guess that they have all moved on and completely forgotten our Son and me. I knew it was going to happen after MIL died and stated as much to my loving wife's Aunt but she said it wouldn't . Hate being right about the wrong things. Take care, John