Members shorty16 Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 DebbieThe truth will set us free.I pray that you feel our angels around you as you go further down the road.Colleen, Brian's Mom 4 ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Debbie....you have Laurie on this site....that can tell you 'the where..what..why..how' she was at with her son....another that was on this site...Becky..our Warrior Mom...and the uphill battle she had to wage for her son...she has had some health issues and can't be on now.....first...you are doing good in hiring the PI.....some things are in better hands with people that deal with this in their expertise...I did mention you getting reports from witnesses....but...then again...if you don't 'know' what to ask...or 'how' to evaluate..it is better left to professionals....my Dad told me...'it is good to know what you do know....but more important...to know what you don't know'and I think we do need to be humble in knowing that others can achieve what we can't...I don't know 'what your ex' knew...and did not relate....but I would hope that the love you both share for your boy...will be enough for him to be truthful with you....I can only imagine how that hurts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wgreenlee Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Cherry...I also listen to the thousand years song and get some solace from it. That is an adorable picture of your sweet girl. KYLIE you are missed and loved, but never forgotten! Be with you mom and dad!!! Debbie...I am sending you so many prayers right now...stay in there and keep up the fight... I know it will be difficult, but we are all here for you. This morning during my duty I got a call asking for Brooks. It was a Washoe County deputy and he wanted to know where Brooks was. I asked him what for and he said Brooks had a warrant out for him and if I knew where he was... Brooks had gotten a speeding ticket and of course couldn't make the court date so I told the deputy what happened. He was very sorry for everything and told me he would take care of it. He called a little bit later to say it was taken care of... Not how I wanted to start my day. It stayed with me all day, though. Memories kept popping up... Tears coming out without knowing. Got lots of hugs to make it a little better. Then Shauna called and asked if Brooks had a spare key for the truck, because her son had locked his in the truck. Didn't have one. Just one of those days, I guess. Renea went to a Compassionate Friends meeting tonight, but I just couldn't go. She understood... Thanks for all the kind words about the birdhouse...no birds yet. Might have to try just seeds. Love to everyone and peace to all of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Wow Wade...your comment about 'may have to try seeds'.......yes...seeds...those tiny little things that grow...and grow...and grow....what a day in the life...right?don't we wish we could just draw a picture....of how a 'great day' would be for us ?Maybe...just maybe....those words from Dee....about you taking yourself some 'time off'....is what this all means...You are doing good...really..you are...you aren't crazy...you are just in mourning...and you are right where you need to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wgreenlee Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Susan...Thank you! Yes, I wish I could paint a picture of my best day... I will have to try that. Just when you think all is lost, God provides something to lift you up. Here's is a message I just got on FB from a friend of Brooks. You probably don't remember me... I had a little girlfriend/boyfriend baby romance with Brooks when we were freshmen in high school. It sounds really silly now, but I used to call him my blueberry muffin. We laughed about it years later. I remember coming to your house after school one day and being ridiculously afraid of meeting you and your wife, and you were both extremely sweet. In fact, I blame you both for the let down i had after having such high expectations when meeting my ex mother-in-law. Anyway, I just wanted you to know that even though Brooks and I only had minor on-and-off contact the last couple years, I have always considered him to be one of the most genuinely kind people I've ever known. I have stayed in contact with Chad and Brooks was always the first thing we'd bring up to see who had talked to him last and how he was doing. He was the kind of sincere, respectful man I would want my girls to look for in a husband someday. Even as a teenager, he was more protective and loving than most men will ever be. Brooks truly set the standards for every relationship and friendship I've had since, and was always there if I needed to vent about someone just not being as great as he was. I know you're aware of all of this, because you did something right raising him. I just thought you should know the mark he left on a fourteen-year-old girl. Tears of loss, but of loving memories now fill my eyes. You did make a difference, Brooks, and I am so proud of you! All my love to you always and forever...Dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Wade, That was a beautiful tribute to Brooks. I just talked to Sam's best friend last night. I needed to hear all the stories again. I needed to hear how Sam had impacted his life. Things that I know but I needed to hear them again. We can all be so proud of the mark our children left in this world. It is so hard to hear of all the evil in this world. All the greed and hate. The v people left here who lie for greed our whatever the motives. And it seems that the kindest most gentle souls are taken. Laurie, Thank you for sharing that with me. It gives me hope that this dark horrible puzzle will someday come together. Susan,You are absolutely right about leaving the questioning to the professionals. My husband was in law enforcement for many years and thought he could talk to these people but we are just to close to the situation. I am going to wait until we meet with the P.I. to do anything else but research. I am also going to contact the attorneys back. I am hoping that now that we have the true BAC of ..02 instead of .41 like the police told us over and over it will make a difference in the decision to take the case. We also need court orders to get copies of the police report. It seems the State of Kansas is one of the few states that you can't get a police report without it. Ted, Thinking of you tonight. I can only imagine being awake alone at night, working. Praying that tonight you have peace. Sam, I promise I won't give up until I find the truth. I love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Sam and his friends the night before his accident. A friend of his just sent this to me. Looks like it was taken with a phone the qualities not very good, but that's my baby holding the flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Can someone tell me how to start an online petition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Debbie...even if the photo is not that 'good'...it is still a treasure....many on this site will applaud you on your quest...when it comes to 'looking under all the rocks'...that in itself is a hard undertaking....coupled with grief...it can feel crippling and overwhelming....just take it one day at a time...and give yourself time to rest and 'come up for air'....remember..self care...for all of it can be draining on the emotional..and take a hit physically....and erode the mental balance.... and when it comes to a grieving parent....our mental balance is not that stable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Debbie...there is a Mom on this site...Shannon..Trista's Mom...I think the girl that was in the car when her daughter died started on online petition...I 'think' there is an organization that will help you create one....I know I signed it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 26, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Dee...a friend sent me a new song written by Mike Love..(Beach Boys) for George Harrison called 'Pisces Brothers'...so pretty...John David is a Pisces....if I can figure out how to post songs I will for you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wgreenlee Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Debbie...If you Google "how to start an online petition" you get numerous sites that will help you. This should get you started. Change.org seems to be a leading site in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Thanks Wade.Debbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff's Mom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Colleen, any news as to how Becky is doing? Hope her health is improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericasmom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Wade, love the tribute to your Brooks on FB. That young lady probably doesn't know the full impact of her note to you. Lovely.COLD here but the cardinals still are singing their lovely spring tunes and for that I know that spring is a promise. A new season will deliver some of the life back into our lands and our skies. We will hear the many birds and see the flowers dancing in the breezes again. We must however be patient, it will happen in its own time. Susan, here is that song and thanks for telling me about it, I do so love George Harrison and all he stood for and wrote about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericasmom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Debbie, you keep on working toward the answers in this sad loss. No matter the outcome, you are working with a specific purpose in mind, in heart, so finding your way is how you are honoring your Boy for now. It takes strength and tenacity, both of which you have. I love the photo too, a new gem for your collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hoosiermom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hello my Indigo friends Pisces brothers! Love it, for I am also a Pisces I am not web savvy enough to figure out how to post youtube songs on here but there are a few that I love and want to share..... "When I Get Where I'm Going" Brad Paisley and Dolly Parton--love love love this song and I have instructed my daughters to play this at my own funeral--some of the lyrics: When I get where I'm goingThere'll be only happy tearsI will shed the sins and struggles I have carried all these yearsAnd I'll leave my heart wide openI will love and have no fearYeah when I get where I'm goingDon't cry for me down here Another song is Adele's version of "Make You Feel My Love". Just reminds me of the strong bond between parent and child and how far we are willing to go for our babies: I'd go hungry, I'd go black and blueI'd go crawling down the avenueNo there's nothing that I wouldn't doTo make you feel my love And last is Brooks and Dunn "Believe"--because it reminds me of greater things to come, when I will be reunited with my daughter: I raise my handsBow my headFinding more and more truthIn the words written in redThey tell me that there's more to thisThan just what I can seeOh I believe!! Sending you all love and light today,,,,Jenn, Brianna's momma always!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Jen...I love those songs too....music is the universal language...and I have always thought that 'music was a gift' from the Creator of the Universe for all us mortals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Lora....what you posted this morning reminded me of something I recently read.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Lora....I think in every family there is that 'chosen one'....and it can get very heavy....for when we can share our burdens...it will lighten the load...but...the news that your brother is improving is a bright spot for your family... This winter seems to just go on and on....and hope that soon some warm winds and sunshine will come to all my Northern sisters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members lorismom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Just wanted to share this beautiful video by Diamond Rio, "God Only Cries", if I'm able to post it................ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtXH4xllwk0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Lora,it's good to see you. You have so much on your plate. I am glad you brother is improving. I hope you get some rest, dealing with others on an emotional level any more seems so exhausting.Susan,Thank you for the Ladybug whispers posting. Yesterday was another emotional bottom for me in dealing with everything. When I opened my eyes this morning and it all hit home, I had to make a conscious decision to breathe, get up and decide if I even wanted to continue to delve into this nightmare. When I came here, the first thing I saw was the writing that you had posted to Lora. I read it and then Lora's post. I was inspired and am back on my path today for Sam. I have contacted another law firm, and after speaking to the paralegal, have hope that they might take the case. She also helped my with some advice on where to go for research regarding the National Transportation Safety Board. I have filed a complaint with the Kansas Insurance Commision regarding the life insurance and am getting ready to return a call to the Attorney General's office. I have decided to start an online petition as soon as I have enough facts to compile what I want in it.My husband is wearing down and I'm afraid that he is hoping that I will let this all go. I am trying to find a balance so that I can carry on without being consumed.Thank you friends. I know I could not do this without being able to come here. This site is a lifesaver and God send.Debbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Lorismom,Thank you for the video. It is a beautiful song. I have turned my back on God lately. I have had several reminders the last few days that I cannot walk this path without my faith that Sam is with the Lord. It has brought me to my knees. This video is wonderful. Thank you for sharing it.Debbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jesse David & Taylor Mom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hello all, just reading for now...hope to catch up as I was away at my SIL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Laurie....hope your visit was a positive one...and gave you a tiny break...even someone bringing you a cup of coffee... reading Debbie's posts reminds me of your and Becky's postings....just one little Mama trying to go up against Goliath...slay all the dragons...for their SONshine boy.... Shannon...we miss you....if all you can do is read...that is ok...many are thinking of you....remember...self care...and one day at a time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 This is one of my favorite poems to send to my sons...when they would find themselves at a crossroad....and there have been many....thought I would send it out to all on this site....for it is really a poem about ...not giving up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 My husband says that he doesn't think any of this is anything but a horrible accident. He said that he thinks that the police and everyone lie because they are not through just don't care. I pray that someday I'll know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jesse David & Taylor Mom Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 My husband says that he doesn't think any of this is anything but a horrible accident. He said that he thinks that the police and everyone lie because they are not through just don't care. I pray that someday I'll know for sure. Did they check to make sure all his money was on him? After Thomas was drugged last November he everything in his wallet except his paycheck money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daveydow1 Posted February 27, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Dee----Yes....have to give all the little birdies credit.....they are getting ready.I just saw two red-winged blackbirds at the feeders the other day, and aflock of robins in the front yard. While the temps outside, and the blowingsnow tell us winter is miles away from spring, the birds must know 'better'. PEACE AND COMFORT TO ALL INDIGOS. Davey&Lisasmom, Sherry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I am sure that many on this site...that has lost a child...then...realizes that we have 'no control' over the expanse of the Universe....and we have that awful...nagging...clawing...little thought in the back of our thoughts....if that can happen to one child...it can happen ...to another child.... I got the call today....that Jesse...had a bad accident....his 'heel' has been broke..shattered...in a freak kind of accident...this is my son that just had the 'miracle son' in December of 2012...Wyatt John....of course...it is not life threatening...he lives...just an 'accident'....but when he called to tell me....I hit a wall...panic attack...could barely breathe...paralyzed for a few moments...vocal chords frozen...striped of every survival tool.... I had a dream at the beginning of January...that I was at a funeral...and a person from my hometown...came up and told me how sorry she was that I had lost 'two sons'....wow...how that dream has stayed with me.... he and his wife will go to see a specialist....we are neighbors to a fantastic medical center in Houston....he needs me to come next week....(aren't we blessed to have a child that still needs us when they have a boo-boo)...I know that all is really in place...he just wants me to come and be near him and family for a few days... but it does bring 'when all the boogie men come out of the closet' to mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Jeff's Mom Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Susan, I am so happy that the accident was not too serious. Also I can relate to your panic. Hold each other close. I read this today in the Obits from our paper. A younger man that was an actor. "When we shall die, Take him and cut him out in little stars. And he will make the face of heaven so fine that the world will be in love with night. And pay no worship to the garish sun.' William Shakespeare, Romeo & Juliet. As a parent how our child died is of the utmost importance. After all we brought them into this world and unfortunately we lived to see them leave it. And because of that we also feel a strong parental need to fully understand that they are ok and in a place of peace far from pain or hurt. They were given to us to cherish and we have done so. And now it is our most difficult task to give them up again. Oh, so difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jesse David & Taylor Mom Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Jenn, Briannas mom, thank you for sharing those songs…and also for Dee posting the music from Youtube….like Susan said music is a universal language…I came across this…. music is the first outside sensation that registers with a developing fetus and is the last that registers with a dying patient…Shannon, thinking of you today…Lora, it is good to hear that your brother is getting better…hopefully you can get through all of the paperwork needed for him soon…Kate, how are things up by you…Sherry, I think those robins must have the wrong month…we had another arctic blast come through…Susan, thanks for posting the quotes from Compassionate Friends…are you signed up to receive emails from them? I was wondering how you find them…Wade, sending warm wishes your way...it seemed like you were under a heavy load…Cherry, I agree with Lora…Becky, Gretchen…you are both in my thoughts as I am sure many would say the same…Mary Ann, Wanda, Ted and so many others that visit this site…We say our children’s name tonight in love…SENDING LOVE TO HEAVEN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Susan, That feeling of panic, is so gut wrenching. Another way we have changed. I have had a recurring dream for many years that my daughter was dead. It is a very vivid dream. I never knew how she died only that she was gone. The dream is etched in my mind. I suppose it is because of her high risk behaviors. I haven't had that dream since Sam's accident. Weird. Love the pictures. Wyatt is so adorable. What a beautiful family.Laurie,He had no cash, but his ID and insurance card were in his wallet. I just don't understand all the blatant lies.debbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jesse David & Taylor Mom Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Susan, that had to be so frightening...we are so thankful it was minor injuries...but will send prayers tonight for sure...and I think he needs you too right now... Kate, very touching quote from Shakespeare...thank you for sharing it... Debbie, this is a hard place for you...to try and find the truth...I agree with Lora in what she wrote in that regards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wgreenlee Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Laurie...It has been a heavy load, but I took Dee's advice and sat and read with Brooks tonight for quite a while. Had a warm blanket and just relaxed. Such outstanding support here and from Brooks' friends, but still so much pain here too. Just wish I could do more to help others. At least with Brooks it was cut and dried how he died, as bad as it was. Having a hard time thinking of how to help, so I guess I just offer my prayers and support here. Wish I was a lawyer! Debbie...You are fighting the "good fight" and I pray every day that you see some light with what you're doing. I pray that your husband understands, and realizes that this will benefit you both in the end. I think closure is a big deal so that you can truly grieve. Like my pastor said...none of this should have happened in the first place, so how we go about finding that closure is important. It's not right that facts are held back or are skewed so do what YOU need to do, and know my support will be there in spirit. Susan...The music analogy was right on. So much of my memories of Brooks are about music...and I hope one day to truly understand how that impacted his life. It's also a big part of how all of his friends remember him, and so I am grateful that he will be a part of their memories in that way. They are constantly telling me how his music impacted them and how he made them smile and feel good with his raps and lyrics. Music is FOREVER!!! Lora...Like you...not sure where I am going, but I do know where I have been... I hope that one day "where I'm going" will eventually bring me the peace I am so desperately seeking, and the same for you. I don't know what I would do without Renea, but we're also having some difficulties too. She is moving on better than me...has a new job with arrest warrants starting in March 10 so that is really good for her. Been going out with her friends and doing "things" that I just can't do yet, although my friends are more homebodies. It will work out. Our grieving is different... I am praying that you will continue to get through the hard times and DO find what is "meant for you." Patricia...What a lovely song and video. Hope all is well your way. Really good to hear from you. Ted...Shannon...CherryHow you doing? Peace and Tranquility your way as Sherry always says... Dee...Thanks for the good advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wgreenlee Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 For those of you still stuck in the grips of this hard winter... PEACE and know our most precious ANGELS are watching and feeling our LOVE as they send us beautiful MEMORIES to help in our JOURNEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I get Compassionate Friends on FB....truly wonderful words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Kate ...loved that quote...when I hear Enya...it always creates a 'longing' in me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mermaid Tears Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Am going to make a copy of this...for not only is it true...it speaks from my heart...the super human love we have for our children....Super Hero Mama and Daddy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MissKylie Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Dear Wade, Brook's friend is so nice to send you a message in FB. About Brook's goodness, sincerity and what a gentleman he is. Am happy for you as it means you are really a good father and a good person. I've been busy working.. Trying to find a way to escape this reality. Or an excuse so I cannot think or feel about grieving. And be at a place where I can be near Kylie. I'm trying so hard not to let go. I'm not yet ready. Debbie, it's a fight worth fighting for. For your Sam. I pray for your strength. Please don't forget to take good care of yourself. Lora, thank you for sharing the news about the efforts of students to help raise money for pediatric cancer research. I cried when I read your post on this. I miss Kylie so much. I just can't imagine I had gone through so much pain when we've been told that Kylie had cancer..And now she's gone, pain became more unbearable with grief.. Loris mom, thank you for posting the video. I hope our angels did not forget us. I will not be able to accept that my dear Kylie already forget about me.... Susan, I like the card you shared. The hole in our hearts are shaped exactly the size and shape of our child. It's a hole that can never be mend. Everything in my life seems to be out of order. My firstborn child is not with me. I had so much work to do that I didn't have the space to grieve. And i don't want to feel the grieving process either. I wish there's an easy way to go home, to be where my daughter is...But there's none...there's no way out... Here's Kylie's picture when she's asked to be the flower girl in my office mate's wedding Our favorite past time...go out and have a good dinner... I miss you so much Kylie. I wish I can hug and kiss you again...Mommy miss you so much... --Kylie's mom--Mommy Cherry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daveydow1 Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Laurie-----With these arctic blasts we've been having, it's a wonderthe robins don't just head back south to the warm climates. Wade----Thanks so much for the video. Beautiful....and I loveEnya's voice. Heartfelt tribute to your dear son, Brookes. PEACE, ....AND A GOOD NIGHT'S REST TO ALL INDIGOS. Davey&Lisasmom, Sherry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daveydow1 Posted February 28, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Snowing again......(notice the orb on the barn). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lovU2themoon Posted March 1, 2014 Members Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 very tired today.been fighting with the bank for 3 days, its the crazies thing ever.talked to the wills and estates division, talked to the division manager, the regional manager.they just dont seem to understand he was 17 to young to have a will!!! nothing to probate, he did not own anything or work or have any debit. I think its because its such an unusual situation when its a minor that dies, no on knows what to do, the laws apply to someone over the age of 18 and no will.my sister and i have ANOTHER appt on Monday... We fight for our kids, forever, even in death, we are their voice. Many on this sight have fought to, Becky, Debbie, Laurie, we fight. Thinking of you all and wishing you peace....some sort of peace.... Wanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jesse David & Taylor Mom Posted March 1, 2014 Members Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 very tired today.been fighting with the bank for 3 days, its the crazies thing ever.talked to the wills and estates division, talked to the division manager, the regional manager.they just dont seem to understand he was 17 to young to have a will!!! nothing to probate, he did not own anything or work or have any debit. I think its because its such an unusual situation when its a minor that dies, no on knows what to do, the laws apply to someone over the age of 18 and no will.my sister and i have ANOTHER appt on Monday... We fight for our kids, forever, even in death, we are their voice.Many on this sight have fought to, Becky, Debbie, Laurie, we fight. Thinking of you all and wishing you peace....some sort of peace.... WandaThat is really sad..like they could not be more helpful...you wonder why these people even get into those jobs... This may or may not help but thought I would put it out there for you...When my BIL died in another state (we drove where he was about 1500 miles in the middle of nowhere), we had to go through a Probate Court in Colorado to get access to his bank account... I had his sister appointed executor of estate...there was not much money in the one account but to get financial authority we had to jump these hoops...sometimes if a person is named as a beneficiary on an account by the deceased owner of the account, this takes effect on the account holders death...this bypasses this whole process...don't know if it works up in Canada that way...But I wonder if you need to be appointed by a court even for a minor...Looked up some more stuff on this, here is a link -- this is for Ontario but I am thinking provinces may have similar forms and legal procedures:How Do You Obtain Probate When There's No Will?http://www.torontoestatemonitor.com/estate-administration/Article 5 and 6 on page, and the author does talk about death of a minor...Legal forms from article...http://www.ontariocourtforms.on.ca/forms/civil/74.14/RCP_E_74.14_1105_ODA.pdfNotice required (probably is submitted to court?)http://www.ontariocourtforms.on.ca/forms/civil/74.17/RCP_E_74.17_1105_ODA.pdfWe are behind you...it is a hard process...************************************************Cherry, thank you for sharing your daughter's pictures...she is a sweet little girl...I love her in the pink dress...I have now went back a couple more times to look at that picture...she is a treasure...Sherry, yes, I can see the orb in front of the barn...we know that our children's spirits live on...those signs we have from our children are such a comfort...Davey is close to your heart still....found this on an early posting of yours, wanted to share as it spoke to my heart Sherry's posting from 2005: I believe we can always talk to our children who have passed on before us. I also believe that they hear us. People here on earth can doubt this to be true, but they cannot disprove it anymore than we can prove it. We just believe it in our hearts and souls, and that is enough. Dee, do you have any writings from from the year and half mark after Eri left? Just wondering what thoughts you had at the time...Kate, Betty, Colleen, Wade, and Susan, thank you for your thoughts on my other thread....more of an online journal entry of the gut feelings... Pat, thank you for the video.. Debbie, thinking of you on your quest for justice and truth for Sam...**************************************************You are all in my thoughts and prayers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted March 1, 2014 Members Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Wanda, I'm so sorry your have to go through this. I know the feeling of total exhaustion, emotionally drained. You know I think the worst part of it all is that Sam would be furious that I have to go through this. It feels so disrespectful to him. Even though I know he is proud of me for holding my head high and pressing forward. I know Lane, Jesse David, Jared and Sam loved us so much that they want us to have peace.Laurie,You have helped me so much with resources. I am beginning to understand where your research habits come from. I am finding that most of my dead ends usually result in another idea or suggestion if I ask the right question. Spent the morning on the phone again. Hit a few brick walls but got a few leads to start on Monday, so I guess it was a good day.Cherry,Oh my gosh, I love the picture of Kylie in the pink dress. She looks like a live doll. So beautiful and photogenic. My heart goes out to you. I am not a touchy person by nature but I wish I could reach out snd give you a big hug.Sherry,Love the picture. I do see the orb. It's amazing the things I never used to notice.Wade, Kate, Shannon, Lora, Dee, Ted, Colleen.....thinking of you all tonight.Sam.....I talked to Caleb today. He told me that you had been givivg money to his ministry. He told me about the night on the tailgate of your truck at Kansas Motor Speedway when he witnessed to you about the Lord. He told me how you had tried to change the subject and tell him that you knew about Jesus. He said that he told you he wasn't going to leave you alone until you KNEW Jesus. He said you confessed and accepted Him that night as your Savior. Son, that is so powerful. I am so proud of you. I needed to talk to him today. I talkec to Patrick also. You were so loved. I miss you so much. I can't wait to see you again. Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SamDsmom Posted March 1, 2014 Members Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 ScreenShot038.jpg Am going to make a copy of this...for not only is it true...it speaks from my heart...the super human love we have for our children....Super Hero Mama and Daddy...Susan,Thank you. The love for my son has changed me. I am usually quiet and shy by nature. I am going to find my answers and make a change. I will not stop. Dee,Hope you are doing well tonight.Debbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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