Moderators ModHerc Posted November 30, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Hello all, I am an agnostic who suffered the loss of his wife on December 25th, 2016. I wanted to make a thread for those with similar beliefs where they could feel safe sharing their experiences. The only other such thread I could find was very disappointing to me. It seemed to be filled with a significant amount of anger, vitriol and conflict. None of us, regardless of our beliefs, or lack thereof, need any more of those three things than we already have due to our grief. I don't believe that the purpose of this web site was represented in that thread. I believe the purpose of of these forums is to provide a place for people to share their grief, experiences, and the wisdom gained through this long hard grief journey we are all on. I also don't believe the thoughts and ideas of the vast majority of agnostics and atheists was represented on that thread. I, and most agnostics and atheist that I know, do not hold any ill will towards theists, theism, or God, by whatever name he may be called. We simply have a different belief structure, and some of what helps religious believers does not help us in the same way. Atheism and agnosticism are in my opinion very calm, logical, and accepting mindsets, something I don't think was expressed in any way in that thread. I personally believe in the possible existence of a supreme or divine being, I just don't think it can be proven one way or the other. I also believe that organized religion has been responsible for some awful parts of mankind's history, including crusades, inquisitions, wars, witch hunts, mass suicides, and holocausts. I do not blame religions themselves for this, nor the vast majority of religious believers. It is a handful of bad actors that used fear and faith in awful ways to manipulate people to perform horrible acts. As a result, I want very little to do with organized religious groups, but I fully respect others right to belong to such groups, and indeed recognize the good parts that it can bring to them, particularly in trying situations such as the ones we are all going through. I have seen faith help people in my personal life, and I am glad that they had the community and beliefs that they did to ease the pain of their grief. To any of you with strong religious beliefs, I never intend to belittle your faith, or cast doubts upon it. I hope that it helps you through these difficult times, and know that my prayers, though our interpretation of that word may differ, are with you. I also still listen to your experiences and wisdom on a regular basis, and apply it to myself as best I can. To the agnostics and atheists among us, I actually hope this thread is mostly unused. This community is a wonderful place, filled with kind, and compassionate people. During my time here I have not once felt my lack of faith has in any way had an adverse effect upon my interactions with others regardless of their religious beliefs. In point of fact, the only thread I can think of which I wouldn't feel comfortable posting in is the aforementioned "other" atheist/agnostic thread. I strongly encourage you to post in the loss of ... forum that is appropriate to your situation. They will most likely have larger audiences, meaning more people to share your grief, and a much larger pool of people who will have experiences similar to yours. But we all know that this experience does strange things to our thought processes, particularly in the early days of grief and shock. As a result, I think a thread such as this may be useful to allow some who are mourning, but uncomfortable with the idea of being singled out as different for their lack of belief, a place to express themselves. If it only reaches one person, it will be worth it. Additionally, if there are any issues specific to Atheism or agnosticism, this will give us a place to discus those without disturbing others who might find it offensive in the midst of their grief. Celebrating how our differences do not have to divide us, but instead can make us stronger as a group, Herc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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