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It's been almost 6 years and I have cleaned out her clothes, destroyed all the documents as per my lawyer and closed all accounts. I had an antique dealer come in and remove all items I or she purchased over 38 years. They only put tears in my eyes. Plus, it would take an eighteen-wheeler to remove it all when or if I decide to sell the house.  I live in a very great area and may never move.  My issue is with her photography, I still have thousands of pictures mounted (I have given away thousands also) and I have them all on my computers if I need to see or print them again.  Since they are digitized, I can get rid of them all physically. The big problem is the awards she won and all the items that came with them. (Clocks, trophies, framed awards, etc.) I have no one to give them too, nobody really wants them, and they are now in many containers.  It really hurts to dump them all in the trash, they are all engraved with personal notes and her name. Has anyone had to go thru this issue? I will always have the photo's since they are stored away in cloud storage.  I just want to get rid of everything else, the house is enough to remind me of her on a daily basis. It's true it takes time and I still get depressed, but those items were only her items, her treasures not mine. (Clothes, shoes, etc. were easy) 

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My sister's husband had a lot of journalism awards and tons of research and materials.  She is donating most of it to libraries and historical societies.

I don't know if that is applicable?

 

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I will keep the notes, cards, and some pictures.  I'll give the kids, especially her sons, anything else that they want.  I want family stuff to remain in the family.

I read some book the other day that we should keep a few pictures but there should not be a shrine.  And we should be able to take our ring off...WHAT?

Now the authors were widowed and remarried to each other...go figure.

This is all personal.  I want to share with the kids and grandkids.  And I have no plans to remarry.

As I have said many times...I am not a citizen of this world...I am looking towards the next...

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19 hours ago, Gator M said:

I read some book the other day that we should keep a few pictures but there should not be a shrine.  And we should be able to take our ring off...WHAT?

Personally I'd deep six that book but that's just me.  I still have a shrine to my beloved dog from 3 1/2+ years ago!  It's something individual and personal and not up to a book to decide.  And to tell you to take your ring off?!  OMG!

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1 hour ago, Brazil Man said:

Time takes many thing away regardless of our wishes.

It really isn't the friend and healer that society all imagines it to be. 

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On 4/8/2023 at 11:05 AM, Gator M said:

I read some book the other day that we should keep a few pictures but there should not be a shrine.  And we should be able to take our ring off...WHAT?

Now the authors were widowed and remarried to each other...go figure.

I learned a lonnng time ago that there's never a shortage of stupidity, including in print. I'd love to tell those people off for their gross irresponsibility in saying something so short-sighted and asinine.

I think the libraries/historical societies are a great idea. Or try other local things such as "artsy places" like museums, etc, they might like to have something to display esp if by a local, although if it's an award I would include the pic or work that got her the award. Or maybe schools, again esp if it's a school she went to or similar local school.

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I kept some items but the one I really hang onto is his bathrobe.  It's an intimate item that I often saw him in, in the evening or early morning...sometimes I wrap it around me.

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Thank you for your insight. Most of the items are custom made of certain woods. The engraving was in the wood so I took pictures and let them go. I’ve packed the matted photographs that can be framed to give out later or be framed. It’s the last stuff I had to remove. It’s just so sad. Again thanks. 

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I agree. My mom came home from my dad's funeral and started throwing things out. She never did say she regretted it, but then my mom was mentally ill.  She was widowed 32 years when she passed.

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I gave some coats and jackets to my wife's sister.The first time I seen her wearing one that I new Sue liked it have my heart a pretty hard tank.

Give yourself all the time you need. All of these things that we have to do, paperwork, clearing things out ,thank you cards cost us emotionally and can all be done another day . When you can't do anymore ,do it tomorrow or next week. Some of your strength will return.

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13 hours ago, Gator M said:

But I plan on downsizing.  My BIL  now wants me to move in with him in the next 3-4 years. 

You are very fortunate that someone cares about you enough to want you to move in.  Unfortunately, I don't have that comfort zone to resort to if I need it.  It's not that I would be able to make the move (mentally or physically) right now.  But knowing when I needed it, it's nice to know you have options.  I agree it sux.

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13 hours ago, KayC said:

It seemed just like the day before I was sewing curtains for it and lining the shelves....

Everything is exactly the way the house was when he left to go into the garage that terrible day.  Everything that he was in the middle of is still right here waiting for him to finish.  His dirty coffee cup, his paperwork that he was researching online, his phone is in the charger... even the tv channel that he was watching that morning has not changed because he had the ID channel on & joked with me that he was on a "case".   Am I going insane?  I feel it.

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15 hours ago, Sheilz said:

It's only been 16 days on this awful journey and someone today told me I should clean out all of his visible stuff & put down cellar.  They said it is making me so sad to look at it all the time.  I wanted to punch him for saying something so ignorant to me but I smiled (cried a bit) and told him I'm not ready.

This is where the grief warrior comes out in me (which is something I know I have to quell at times) but it's good to hear that you have some strength to do battle with others' suggestions of making you "better". As if our loss isn't the greatest devastation to happen to us, we have those around us...those who we were perfectly comfortable and content with before suddenly seeming to be strangers and complete jerks....and that can feel frightening. Unfortunately, it's what happens. That's what most of us learned to do when we see sorrow...cheer the person up and take away what is causing the pain. If they can't do that, they start feeling helpless and useless. I guess the hope is that they catch on to their awkwardness and eventually come around to being with us in this pain. 

Here is Megan Devine reading an excerpt from her excellent book "It's OK That You're Not OK". I'm hoping this is helpful....

 

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No you are not. It is normal to want things to stay the same and keeping things the way they were is giving you something for now. One day, maybe tomorrow, you will clean that cup or change the channel and slowly start the new life. Each time I make a change it burns. 

I have enjoyed a few changes, she left her makeup and women's stuff all around the sink,one day I put it away (in her drawer) I can't chuck it yet. And I like being able to use that sink again.

That's the way it goes for me , little bits when I can and want. I found it difficult to come to terms with the fact that there is no our bathroom \bedroom it is just mine . No matter how hard I pray or wish it to be ours.

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42 minutes ago, Sheilz said:

I'm just not sure about my capabilities at this point.  I'm doubting my mental abilities. 

I've seen this in my friend Iris, her husband died 2/4/23, sometimes she is lucid and I'm amazed and other times...it will dissipate eventually.  

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51 minutes ago, shawnt said:

No you are not. It is normal to want things to stay the same and keeping things the way they were is giving you something for now. One day, maybe tomorrow, you will clean that cup or change the channel and slowly start the new life. Each time I make a change it burns. 

I have enjoyed a few changes, she left her makeup and women's stuff all around the sink,one day I put it away (in her drawer) I can't chuck it yet. And I like being able to use that sink again.

That's the way it goes for me , little bits when I can and want. I found it difficult to come to terms with the fact that there is no our bathroom \bedroom it is just mine . No matter how hard I pray or wish it to be ours.

I've given some things to the grandkids.  I plan on giving most of it to kids and grandkids.  I know she would have liked that.

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1 hour ago, Gator M said:

I've given some things to the grandkids.  I plan on giving most of it to kids and grandkids.  I know she would have liked that.

I plan on giving anything that my (step)daughter wants to her & grandson.  The family heirlooms belong in her family.  She lives so far away that it will be a chore to do.  Plus my husband was a car buff & he had a 67 Chevy (forever) that was his baby called "Ole Blue" that rightfully goes to her.  I will cry when it goes but it will be a complicated event getting it to her.  No rush in doing so.  Everything just seems so complicated & overwhelming.  

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3 hours ago, Sheilz said:

I'm afraid my crying & depth of my grief is increasing.  I cry 24/7 now.  It's becoming increasingly difficult to get out of bed.  The pain is getting the better of me.

Know that you have us on this board to listen to you and comfort you. WE HAVE ALL BEEN THROUGH THIS to varying degrees. Try to discuss your feelings with your family and friends. Not all of them will totally understand. In that case, we on this board are always here for you and each other.

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7 hours ago, Gator M said:

Until then I go from miserable to tolerable and back again...posting here and attending group.

Exactly.  Haven't even hit the tolerable part yet.  Posting here is my saving grace.  I have yet to attend a group.  I'm not ready to even walk into a place alone.  But I have looked up a couple.

 

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11 hours ago, DWS said:

Here is Megan Devine reading an excerpt from her excellent book "It's OK That You're Not OK". I'm hoping this is helpful....

This is perfect.  Even makes sense.  I'm going to look for her book now.  Thank you.

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20 hours ago, Sheilz said:

I will cry when it goes but it will be a complicated event getting it to her. 

I had my son sell my 78 Chevy Silverado, it was in mint condition but didn't get many mpg. We're in Oregon, someone in MN bought it, and paid to have it shipped there.  Or she could drive out with a friend and have the friend drive it back, if there's two of them it'd be easier to make the trip.

 

19 hours ago, Sheilz said:

Too much crying in their eyes is a sign of a breakdown or something.

I'm sorry, in reacting this way they have made it difficult for you to reach out to them. It might help if and when you join a grief support group where you can get to know other grievers and perhaps new friends to reach out to that get it.  When we had mine going, we all became close friends and went out together or called each other.

 

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8 hours ago, KayC said:

I'm sorry, in reacting this way they have made it difficult for you to reach out to them.

Well I guess I can't cry to anyone in my tiny circle now.  My niece (who lives 1.5 hours away) text me this morning & asked how I was doing.  At the time I was having a mini meltdown.  I text her that I was having a meltdown & was going to go lay back down & shut my phone off.  Then I said "when is this pain going to get easier".  Well I then climbed back in bed at 10:00am & found a tv show.  I told myself I am only going to stay in bed for 1 hour then I must get up & shower & eat something.  While watching the tv (with the bedroom door shut) I thought I heard something.  I put tv on mute & I heard someone banging on the door & someone banging on the windows.  I got up & it was the police & people from the crisis center.  My niece called in a wellness check on me.  They wanted to take me in for observation for 24 hours.  They were rude people but after a long time I convinced them that I was going to be ok.  They would not leave without someone coming to stay with me.  A neighbor was in the area looking on & said that he would stay with me.  They took his number too.  Well this neighbor is male & I'm not comfortable at all about this.  I don't really even know him.  He is sitting in my yard right now while I'm in the house.  My niece that made the call hasn't even contacted me to see if I made out ok.  For all she knows, I'm at a lock up ward.  I am so disappointed & hurt & sad & furious.  I just feel as if I'm getting deeper & deeper in some kind of trouble.  

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8 minutes ago, Sheilz said:

Well I guess I can't cry to anyone in my tiny circle now.  My niece (who lives 1.5 hours away) text me this morning & asked how I was doing.  At the time I was having a mini meltdown.  I text her that I was having a meltdown & was going to go lay back down & shut my phone off.  Then I said "when is this pain going to get easier".  Well I then climbed back in bed at 10:00am & found a tv show.  I told myself I am only going to stay in bed for 1 hour then I must get up & shower & eat something.  While watching the tv (with the bedroom door shut) I thought I heard something.  I put tv on mute & I heard someone banging on the door & someone banging on the windows.  I got up & it was the police & people from the crisis center.  My niece called in a wellness check on me.  They wanted to take me in for observation for 24 hours.  They were rude people but after a long time I convinced them that I was going to be ok.  They would not leave without someone coming to stay with me.  A neighbor was in the area looking on & said that he would stay with me.  They took his number too.  Well this neighbor is male & I'm not comfortable at all about this.  I don't really even know him.  He is sitting in my yard right now while I'm in the house.  My niece that made the call hasn't even contacted me to see if I made out ok.  For all she knows, I'm at a lock up ward.  I am so disappointed & hurt & sad & furious.  I just feel as if I'm getting deeper & deeper in some kind of trouble.  

My kids were all worried about me in the beginning...stayed with me for several days...but now????

They'll call and I'll say I'm lonely or miserable but then they drop it.

Your niece sounds like the kind who would put you in a home and then never visit...Please excuse me if I'm wrong.

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1 hour ago, Gator M said:

Your niece sounds like the kind who would put you in a home and then never visit...Please excuse me if I'm wrong.

Someone lately told me that I will be disappointed in a lot of people over this.  They are right.  This one just sucker punched me in the gut & took all the air out.  

My niece wouldn't even put me in a home.  She'd leave me here to rot.  Sorry, but I just have a bitter taste from all this.  

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6 minutes ago, Sheilz said:

Someone lately told me that I will be disappointed in a lot of people over this.  They are right.  This one just sucker punched me in the gut & took all the air out.  

My niece wouldn't even put me in a home.  She'd leave me here to rot.  Sorry, but I just have a bitter taste from all this.  

I'm right there with you.   So, then I'm thinking,  why do I bother?

It's clear, our culture has changed.  

But Sheilz...We're  in this together.

 

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8 minutes ago, Sheilz said:

Someone lately told me that I will be disappointed in a lot of people over this.  They are right.  This one just sucker punched me in the gut & took all the air out.  

My niece wouldn't even put me in a home.  She'd leave me here to rot.  Sorry, but I just have a bitter taste from all this.  

I'm so sorry for all of these awful moments happening to you right now. It all feels so surreal to not only be dealing with the tragic loss but then being left among those who can't comprehend the continual personal devastation. You'd think people could clue in! 

I am glad to hear that you've ordered Megan's book "It's OK That You're Not OK". She does have a YouTube channel with short, helpful videos that you might want to check out. Here is one that I've posted on here before but it's definitely suited for your current situation...

 

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17 minutes ago, DWS said:

Here is one that I've posted on here before but it's definitely suited for your current situation...

Thank you.  Nailed it.  Only I haven't yet found a surprise in the "good" direction..... except this forum.  Bless you all.

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@Sheilz I am so sorry you have had this unwelcome and unpleasant intrusion into your life.  A year or two ago a fellow on this forum wrote about a similar experience, where someone called the police to do a wellness check and he was actually taken in for observation, over his objection!  There he was very careful to answer all questions with the responses that would get him released, rather than the accurate responses that he was depressed and missed his wife terribly, which could have landed him in a mental ward.  He was released in 24 hours as I remember, but it was a very bad and stressful experience for him too.

Police don't understand our grief any more than other people who have not been through this. 

I never really shared the extent of my dispair with any family or friends because I feared that I could be  Baker Acted (Florida's involuntary civil commitment law to protect people who may be a danger to themselves or others).  I had worked in Florida's State mental hospitals and knew I didn't want even a short stay there. 

You did well to avoid being taken in for "observation".  It can be hard to get out of that system sometimes.  (I represented people trying to get released.)

This forum was the only place I could really express how I was feeling. 

Gail

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13 hours ago, Sheilz said:

I am so disappointed & hurt & sad & furious.

I would be too! Not like you were threatening suicide! The police need a course on grief so they can have a better grasp on what we all feel and go through!  Wow, I am so sorry.:o

12 hours ago, Sheilz said:

My niece wouldn't even put me in a home.  She'd leave me here to rot.

Not saying you should be, but I'd be so done with her. Wow.

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9 hours ago, Gail 8588 said:

There he was very careful to answer all questions with the responses that would get him released, rather than the accurate responses that he was depressed and missed his wife terribly, which could have landed him in a mental ward.  He was released in 24 hours as I remember, but it was a very bad and stressful experience for him too.

I totally remember this and thought of it when he posted about this.  

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