Members Popular Post Magda Posted June 30, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 For those of you more spiritually inclined... Have you seen signs that your beloved is around? I always believed in God and the Other Side and all that. My family had seen sightings of spirits, I never could. My guy had no beliefs of this sort. That's what partly got him, I think, when he couldn't do 12 step. He couldn't wrap his head around any concept of a Higher Power. I feel like there is no sign of him. When he was here, I kept seeing lime green cars everywhere, he loved lime green and wanted a lime green car. Now I feel like I don't even see those. I can't tell where he went. I keep second guessing our connection now. It leaves me feeling hopeless. Is he lost? Did he just leave and not care after all? Did he cease to exist? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post Silviu Posted June 30, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 I don't believe, in such things but i don't dismiss them as impossible either. After my girlfriend died some weird things happen, but they do have a logical explanation. At the funeral i put on her chest her favorite necklace, she was already set up, so i couldn't move her to put it around her neck, so i just layed it on her chest, it was a necklace made out of wooden balls (i think) on a string with a cross, she lost that cross a long time ago but she kept wearing it because she liked it, so i got an amber heart (amber was her favorite) to replace the lost cross, and she absolutely loved it, that's why i wanted her to be buried with it. Anyway, during the memorial the priest told us we can each go say our goodbyes, me and her parents went in first, I bent down to whisper in her ear that i love her, then i moved over to make room for the others, there is a tradition here for men to wear a towel around their arm, but i was holding it in my hand so the candle didn't drip on me. After everybody said their goodbyes i moved my hand, and that necklace fell from my hand on the floor, i saw it, and put it back on her chest, not realizing how weird it was for it to happen until later, the only explanation i have is that it might have got caught in my bracelet when i bent over her, and i didn't feel it because of the towel. She bought 2 bracelets for my birthday, one for me one for her, and i got 2 magnets for them, so when we held hands they sticked to each other, and i kept both of them, and wore them on my hand with those 2 magnets keeping them together as a sign that we will always be together in my heart, so it's possible for the necklace to get stuck to those magnets. Those are the bracelets, the black one is mine the colored one was hers, i don't have a photo with the magnets tho Second weird thing happened to her best friend, when she got in her car after the funeral, the spotify started even tho it was closed on her phone, and the song playing was from billie eilish - when the party is over and it was playing these lyrics: But nothin' is better sometimes Once we've both said our goodbyes Let's just let it go Let me let you go Since then i didn't notice any weird things happening, at least not something obvious like the necklace appearing in my hand, and i didn't pay to much attention to signs either. Other weird things are about her death, for example she died on 12.06.2021, that day was her best friends birthday, the funeral was on 14.06.2021 her best friend's mother birthday, the grave is number 12 in the row, our last date was 126, her personal number (it's like a social security number in US) starts with 601206, on 21.07.2021 it will be the 40 day memorial service, exactly 12 months after the operation to remove the cancer 2 hours ago, Magda said: I keep second guessing our connection now. It leaves me feeling hopeless. Is he lost? Did he just leave and not care after all? Did he cease to exist? I've only felt her presence at the funeral, since then nothing. I don't think he ceased to exist, he is present in your heart and in your thoughts, a part of him will always be with you, the love you feel for him, the memories you have of him those will always exist. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post KimK Posted June 30, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 If you feel up to it, watch "I survived... beyond and back" with a free subscription to tubitv.com. it's an A&E documentary, nonreligious, that gives real accounts of people who died, went ro the other side, and were brought back by doctors or God. My husband died 3 months ago, and I've felt a lot of disbelief and rejection. Where did he go? Did he just stop? I don't feel him, therefore I'm lost... the crazy thing is that I'm very spiritual and have very strong faith. I don't think it changes the feelings we all go through. So I became obsessed with accounts of the other side. If he left me for that side (rejection is a common feeling of grief), I want to know what it's like. And from these accounts, I have so much more peace. It's awesome. Trust me, you'll see it all over their face as they describe it, and it'll calm your soul. He's complete, whole, loved by his creator, whether he knew God or not, he was known by God. In the 3 months since my husband passed, I have no signs here on earth. I've had no dreams, minus one where we were fighting, and I couldn't see his face. I think that's weird when my daytime is consumed with thoughts of him, but at the same time, if our grief is the brain's way of protecting us, maybe we just go with it. I hope you have some peace today. It hurts so bad. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post june483 Posted July 1, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 My husband ate wintergreen lifesavers when the chemo made his mouth feel like crap. I would buy the small bags they sell at the grocery store. He was very close to my grandson - who was 3 - and would slip him a lifesaver every now and then. About 6 weeks after he passed I got a box delivered. The return address had no name because the name above the address was cut off. Inside there were 2 huge 3 pound bags of wintergreen lifesavers. No packing slip, no paperwork. I asked everyone I know but no one to my knowledge even knew he ate them. It was delivered by UPS and the return address was an out of state Amazon warehouse. I plugged in every bar code every sticker on the box to both ups and amazon. I poured through all his emails and all my amazon orders and his. I called both UPS and Amazon. No one could tell me anything. They said it was probably some kind of warehouse shipping error. What are the chances? So for the past year little David comes in and the first thing he says is, can I have a mint. His mother has limited him to 3 a day. I still have almost a full bag left. I think my late husband pulled some strings. Maybe not, but maybe! I hope he doesn't sit around all day thinking of what he can do to help me out but I do like to think he is checking in on me every now and then. I think they are around but ultimately we have to learn to do things on our own unfortunately... 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post KayC Posted July 1, 2021 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 20 hours ago, Magda said: I keep second guessing our connection now. It leaves me feeling hopeless. Is he lost? Did he just leave and not care after all? Did he cease to exist? Yes he exists. It's very hard for them to show signs as I understand it. I didn't even dream of George for a year, and I didn't understand that as we were ALWAYS together and each other's WORLD! But I've learned not to measure anything by our signs or lack of them. But yes, I've had some. When George died it was amidst a tremendous thunder/lightening storm AND a triple rainbow! I laughed inside as I figured heaven got quite a jolt when he entered, he would get a kick out of that! But one year to the day a pansy sprung up on the corner underneath our elevated patio...how it survived several feet of snow and cold throughout the winter, dropping from a mere seed 8' below the deck, IDK, but I took it as a miracle. They are delicate flowers, not survivors. I've never had this happen before or since with ANY flowers! Pansies was our flower, George called it the smiling flower. Years later I bought an old Volvo and it immediately needed all kinds of work to it, costing me a fortune...when walking from the auto repair back to my office, I noticed a pansy growing out of the cement sidewalk. Another miracle, a reassurance to me that I'd make it. I went through the recession, losing my job over and over again. The last time I knew not to even file unemployment or look for work, I'd spent a year looking for a job, apply to 350 any of which I could have done, only to have NO ONE hire me! It was the first time I'd experienced age discrimination. I lived off my savings for four years until I was broke. I called the social security office and the lady told me my benefit would be $250/month. WHAT??!!! I couldn't live on that! I asked her to double check, and she refused, telling me to call my local office (1 1/2 hours away). I'd held for this lady over an hour, by now it was 4:00, the local office had just closed. I was distraught, my anxiety through the roof! It was a three day weekend, wouldn't you know, I'd have to wait until Tuesday to get ahold of someone. I was laying on my bed when I suddenly felt George's hand on my shoulder/back area. I'd know his touch anywhere. Instantly I felt a calm peace wash over me and I knew everything was going to be okay. Tuesday I made the call and got a nice man who filed for me, and no my benefits were NOT $250/month! I figure the lady didn't bother looking it up, just wanted rid of me so she could start her weekend. He not only set it up but filed Medicare for me, having it come out directly out of my benefit. I didn't even have to drive in to their office. I don't claim to have any explanation for how they can do this, nor can I conjure it up at will. I can't explain it, I only know my experience. If there was a way to calm me, leave it to George to do so. I haven't had anything unusual happen in the years since, but that's okay, I go on faith and know we'll be together again. I believe we were fated to meet when we did, and likewise will find each other when the time comes...he'll be there waiting for me. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post WhoamInow Posted July 1, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 My husband died rapidly from Cancer on 3-20-21 and it seemed like I felt nothing no signs, then one morning there where a lot of butterflies outside and I went out one of the flew over and sat on my hand for a bit then it flew onto my shoulder. I felt relief as I do believe it was him letting me know he made it to heaven. I’ve also had many rainbows around our home. The other night I was fighting “my new normal “ to go to sleep and all of the sudden I could plainly see his eyes just his eyes I started to cry and tell him thank you. Whether it’s his spirit or just my grief stricken dog mind. These 3 things in 3 1/2 months have given me momentary comfort. I pray you receive a beautiful sign sent just for you. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post foreverhis Posted July 1, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Of course I have no proof, which is why it's an act of faith, but yes I believe I have had signs from my husband. Though they aren't as frequent as at first, it seems to me as if he manages to "reach through" to me in times of great stress. Here are three from the past year or so. I was having a really difficult day and couldn't seem to stop crying or calm down. I hadn't had a day like that for a while, but it was the day our county issued stay-at-home orders for COVID. I knew the stress and uncertainty and risk to my health were going to set me back emotionally. I had just started carefully stepping out into the world again and was so discouraged. Finally, I walked out the back door just for the distraction. As soon as I did, a fledgling (teen) Peregrine falcon landed about 15 feet up on the branches of a coastal oak behind the back fence. We live on a small coastal lot, so "behind" is only about 15 ft away. I decided to sneak into the house for a camera, figuring the minute I moved, he would take off. He didn't. In fact, he stayed there for at least 45 minutes, preening, displaying, snagging little bits to eat off the branches while I took pictures and a few little videos. He looked at me calmly even when I moved closer to stand nearly under the branch where he was. Finally, I was tired and it was kind of cold out, so I went back inside. Only then did he look at me once again and soar off. The second was similar in that I'd been having a bad day and went out back for some air. It was rather windy and a sizable bit of yard detritus landed at my feet. I glanced down to see that it looked almost woven and was in the shape of a perfect heart. The third was really unusual. I still can't just go upstairs to "go to bed" much of the time. But it's hard enough sleeping much less having it interrupted by falling asleep on the sofa with the TV on low and then staggering upstairs. I know it's not good for my already challenged health. So I try every few nights to get up into that big empty bed on my own. One of the first times I seriously tried, I gave myself a pep talk as I changed from pjs to one of his sleep shirts. Then I climbed into bed, patted his pillows, and prayed, "Please, please, please let me just go to sleep!" But as usual, my busy brain would not shut up--even though I took my sleep aid. As I was tossing and turning, I felt a strong arm across the small of my back just like when I would have trouble sleeping or when John wanted to cuddle. It distracted me, especially because I felt it even after I shifted the covers (in case they were bunched there) and turned onto my side and back again. I asked, "Is it you?" before finally drifting off to sleep. Was it my imagination run wild? Was it the covers after all? I don't care. Nothing can dissuade me from believing that somehow John managed to help me that night. I honestly do not think it ever matters whether the signs we believe are real to others. They are real to us and they help us. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post Yoli Posted July 2, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Recently I was on a stoney beach with friends. I asked Indy to help me find a stone I could pick up and take with me - I told her it had to have either a heart on it or a cross. 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members foreverhis Posted July 2, 2021 Members Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 @Yoli That is amazing!!! Indy definitely heard you and helped. At least, that's my opinion and nothing can change it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post KayC Posted July 2, 2021 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 These are amazing signs! I choose to believe. None of us can "prove" anything, but that means naught to me, I've learned to go by faith and hope! And I believe. Thank you all for everything you've shared, it means so much to us all! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post SoVerySad Posted July 4, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 My friends and I believe in signs. After my mother passed, I came home from work one night and the tv was on and tuned to her favorite program. I am positive that I turned it off before I left the house! About a week after my partner passed, I was at a backyard party at a cousin’s house, telling someone the story of his accident, when a cardinal flew overhead. Cardinals are supposed to be signs of a loved one. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post tnd Posted July 7, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 My husband was a Christian man. Although I have had some strange experiences in the past that could not be explained, my husband did not want me believing in ghosts or spirits. But I don't know...I just don't know. The last couple of nights I have woken up to the faint smell of diesel. You don't smell that too often here. It was quiet, there was no traffic, no trucks, it was in the middle of the night. As weird as it was, my husband loved the smell of diesel. And I definitely smelled diesel. For two nights in a row. I am puzzled by it but wasn't afraid. I don't know if it was a "sign" that he's around but it doesn't bother me. Diesel...go figure. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post Darlene13 Posted July 7, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 My dad died suddenly after an emergency surgery 20 yrs ago and my mom was in a state of shock and didn't want to go on without him, a feeling many of us know all too well. It was about two weeks later that she was unloading my nephew's things for the scout trip he was leaving on, and she was distressed. She said she clearly heard my dad's voice say, "You're gonna be ok." My dad had Parkinsons and his voice was quiet and sometimes slurred in his final year, but she said his voice sounded like it did when he was young, clear and strong. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post foreverhis Posted July 7, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 4 hours ago, tnd said: But I don't know...I just don't know. I think that's all we can say when it comes right down to it. I will continue to believe the signs that seem like signs from John. I don't much care if I'm right or wrong because they comfort me regardless. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post june483 Posted July 7, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 My husband's brother had Downs Syndrome and died from an accident at the age of 31 (20 years ago). We attended many Catholic family masses and always brought him with us. During the consecration of the gifts, when the church is totally quiet, he would always say something loud. I think he liked the echo. We always had to shush him and he thought it was so funny because he was a trickster and loved to be mischievous. At his one year anniversary mass, in that church, at the consecration of the gifts a bird flew into the church and was flying around chirping. I have never seen a bird in that church before or since. Will never forget that as long as i live. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post KayC Posted July 7, 2021 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 I love hearing your accounts, it IS comforting! It tells me there is a whole lot we may not know/understand but just because we have no explanation and science can explain it away, doesn't make it any less so! Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen. That's all I need to know, I have faith. I believe. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators KayC Posted July 8, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 This newletter contains an article on signs/messages: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5feb832b6821b161c8c11af4/t/60e4aa1dbd18c4253ffdc384/1625598496599/ELetter+July+Summer+2021+(1).pdf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post tnd Posted July 23, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Okay, so I don't know if this counts but very early this morning when still in bed, I was awakened by two snorting sounds. The sounds were exactly the sounds my husband would sometimes make in his sleep. So when I heard it this morning I jolted awake and looked over to his side of the bed...and of course he wasn't there but it caught me by surprise for just a moment. I know what I heard. Maybe he had been here with me this morning. At least it didn't make me cry. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators widower2 Posted July 23, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Never had any signs and I'm not saying what is or isn't out there as I'm not qualified and ambivalent about it all, but throwing this out for whatever it's worth: check a book called "Proof of Heaven" by Dr Alexander, a neurosurgeon and atheist...until he had a near-death experience which cannot be easily explained away. It is if nothing else interesting IMO. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LMR Posted July 23, 2021 Members Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I've read this book too. It's hard to discount. There are other doctors who have reported that they are certain that consciousness survives death at least for a while. More than that they cannot say. I have thought about it a lot. Mainstream thinking says consciousness is just a brain function but I wonder why it is that whenever I bring to mind a memory, not just those of my husband, but sometimes from my youth before I met him, that I feel it in the pit of my stomach. Why would that be? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tnd Posted July 23, 2021 Members Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, widower2 said: check a book called "Proof of Heaven" by Dr Alexander, widower2: I looked up the book and read a little on it. It sounds very interesting. Especially coming from a neurosurgeon. Who was an atheist no less? Maybe after I get moved I will be able to order it. The subject fascinates me and has me wondering, now more than ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators KayC Posted July 23, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Many years ago I read this book, it definitely made me stop and ponder...all the more in the years since when I experienced my own NDEs. https://www.amazon.com/My-Glimpse-Eternity-Betty-Malz/dp/0800790669?asin=0800790669&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tnd Posted August 19, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Again I thought I heard my husband out in the living room last night talking on his phone, I was in bed but awake. Just lying there as usual, unable to sleep. It was a quiet voice so I couldn't make out what he was saying and it was very brief. This doesn't scare or upset me but I wish it would stop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post LennyD Posted August 19, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Lisa gave me a sign that even today, 3 months later, makes me smile. You see, I'm hard of hearing. So I often watch TV with the sound muted and read the closed captioning. I do this a lot. Then Lisa would come into the room, sit down, and bark at me to turn on the volume so she could hear hear the TV. Flash forward to 2 weeks after her passing. I had been in the den watching TV with the sound muted. I left the den and came into the kitchen to work on the computer. Our dog and cat were in the kitchen with me. Suddenly the sound on the TV starts playing, clear as day! I got a chuckle out of this. Saying to myself that might be a sign from Lisa. So I went into the den and muted the TV. Then I went back into the kitchen and resumed work at the computer..... The TV did it again! Sound came on, loud and clear! THe TV has never done this before and never done this since. To me, this is a sign from Lisa that she is with me. It gives me great comfort. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tnd Posted August 19, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, LennyD said: To me, this is a sign from Lisa that she is with me. It gives me great comfort. LennyD: That's good that it brought you some comfort. A little comfort can sure go a long ways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LennyD Posted August 19, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 To me, the secret is not to be looking for or expecting a sign. But to be aware that they can occur and to recognize one when it happens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Heart&Soul Posted August 20, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 @Magda I have had many signs from my husband. I watched a show about getting signs from our loved ones and in this show they suggested you ask your loved one for a specific sign. May I suggest you ask for a specific sign from your loved one. I am sure they will send you this sign and when they do please let us know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members foreverhis Posted August 20, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 7 hours ago, LennyD said: To me, the secret is not to be looking for or expecting a sign. But to be aware that they can occur and to recognize one when it happens. I agree. I haven't looked for or sought out any signs from John. When they have happened, they catch me off guard, which is probably why I sometimes wonder if it's just wishful thinking. OTOH, it doesn't matter in the long run because I will continue to believe them as an act of faith that there is something in this vast universe of ours, a grandeur beyond this world, that the something is a wonderful place, and that my John is there (along with our most precious fur babies, Charlie and Penny, and other pets and people who we love). I may be a rational empiricist who believes in science, but I am also quite spiritual and keep the universal faith John and I shared. John and I believe that our human minds simply cannot comprehend all the wonders and glories beyond the here and now. And so, I will continue to accept the grace of signs from my soulmate when they happen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post Brok Posted August 20, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 I look for signs and even had a talk about it with my father before he passed away. I needed a sign badly when my oldest son passed away and still am open to any sign. Now my husband has passed away and I know that if he could he would send a sign because we had many conversations on the subject. I have never received anything remotely resembling a sign. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators KayC Posted August 20, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 They have come to me unbidden yet very welcome, usually just when I needed them most! They brought me calm and peace. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roxeanne Posted August 20, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Brok said: I have never received anything remotely resembling a sign. Yes me too...maybe 'cos if i see a butterfly flying i don't believe it's a sign from my loved one! Or clouds or dimes... Maybe 'cos i expect some strong and original sign from him! He was so creative... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators KayC Posted August 20, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 The biggest one I got was when I was going to file social security and that was THIRTEEN YEARS after he died! I didn't expect it and certainly didn't conjur it up, but it happened when I most needed it (and did NOT expect it!) in my life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diane R. E. Posted August 20, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 18 hours ago, LennyD said: To me, the secret is not to be looking for or expecting a sign. But to be aware that they can occur and to recognize one when it happens. I believe this to be true as well. I have received several huge signs from my husband, but they are fewer now. However, about two weeks ago I was driving to a grocery store and I had NPR on the radio as usual. But I quickly became dismayed by what was being talked about, so I switched to a music station that both my husband and I liked. Just when I was pulling into a parking spot, my husband's all time favorite song came on! I was feeling pretty low that day so the timing was perfect. It may have been a coincidence, but since I RARELY tune in that station, I fully claimed it as a sign. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators KayC Posted August 20, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 I never "looked" for signs either, but on my other grief group the counselor/owner/administrator posted this when I said I couldn't control my dreams: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171019100812.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tnd Posted August 21, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 18 hours ago, foreverhis said: John and I believe that our human minds simply cannot comprehend all the wonders and glories beyond the here and now. foreverhis: I like how you put that. That's how I feel and you perfectly described it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tnd Posted August 21, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Brok said: I have never received anything remotely resembling a sign. Brok: Maybe you won't receive a sign for some time yet to come. Maybe when you least expect it. Or maybe you have received a sign but didn't realize it unless you go back and think about it. Even so, hopefully you find other things and thoughts or memories that can comfort you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators KayC Posted August 21, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 12:00 AM, Brok said: I look for signs and even had a talk about it with my father before he passed away. I needed a sign badly when my oldest son passed away and still am open to any sign. Now my husband has passed away and I know that if he could he would send a sign because we had many conversations on the subject. I have never received anything remotely resembling a sign. It was quite some time before I got any...it was a full year before I even dreamed of him, it's rare and I don't understand why I don't more, we were everything to each other. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members foreverhis Posted August 21, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 6:29 PM, tnd said: foreverhis: I like how you put that. That's how I feel and you perfectly described it. When John and I slowly left the traditional religions in which we'd been raised (Episcopal and Methodist-Episcopal), some in our families had a hard time understanding that we weren't leaving our faith. We simply realized that our faith was stronger when we expanded it to be more all-encompassing. In a way, our faith could no longer be strong if bound by a single, specific religious belief. Our daughter and my baby sister ultimately came to feel the same way, so we had lots of talks with them about it. I guess you could say that for me that expanding actually started when I was a child. While we went to church most Sundays, there were also times we didn't. We might be camping and my dad would take us on a morning walk through the redwoods or along the ocean. He'd talk to us about the wonders of our world and the universe beyond. He'd talk about the miracles that we can see every day, if only we look for them. He'd say that God, in whatever form a person believes, is everywhere, which is part of why it is impossible for our minds to completely define the word faith. We know, we simply know and we accept our human limitations. Here's one of my favorite definitions of the difference between religion and faith. It's from Keeping the Faith and the scene is Father Finn (played by one of my favorites, Edward Norton) talking to his congregation. "The seven deadly sins. Who can name the seven deadly sins? ... People! It was a very popular film with Brad Pitt, you have the ultimate cliff note. ... The truth is, I don't really learn that much about your faith by asking questions like that because those aren't really questions about faith, those are questions about religion. And it's very important to understand the difference between religion and faith. Because faith is not about having the right answers. Faith is a feeling. Faith is a hunch, really. It's a hunch that there is something bigger connecting it all, connecting us all together. And that feeling, that hunch, is God. And coming here tonight, on your Sunday evening, to connect with that feeling, that is an act of faith. And so all I have to do is look around the room at this packed church to know that we're doing pretty well as a community. ... Even if all of you failed my pop quiz miserably." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators KayC Posted August 22, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 To me, no church is "perfect" because they're comprised of people and their perspectives. But I like the sense of extended family/caring that I have attending my regular church. I realize they are not all the same, nor are they the same from one year to the next. Sometimes the changes are hard, sometimes welcome. But I agree with you about faith, it is so much more than the limitations/confines of church. When I read "Pathways to the Soul" (an excellent book!) I recognized my "pathway" is nature, very much so. I also grew up camping and going on walks/hikes with my dad. My siblings were uninterested, but I was always his first (usually only) volunteer to go with him...he'd point out the wildflowers, their names, special rocks, shells, creatures. I have so many special memories with him. The last 44 years I've LIVED in nature, the beautiful tall evergreens, this morning we watched the deer in the back yard, I can hear the water (on my property) rushing from First Creek. I love it. It will be hard for me if I ever have to move away... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tnd Posted August 27, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 I also posted this under "Some Moments Hurt More Than Others" but thought it really ought to go here. I don't talk about this because I'm afraid people will think I'm crazy or lying but I have had some "unusual" experiences. Not concerning my husband but rather, people that were important to me that had passed away. Many years ago when I was first diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Polymyositis, I was having a bad day getting up the 3 flights of stairs to my apartment. I would climb a few steps and then have to sit down and rest. It was agonizing, exhausting and painful. I really did not think I was going to make it all the way up those stairs. Then, as I was resting, I heard a close friend of the family as clear as a bell. He said "Just do it". He said it twice. I was so shocked hearing his voice that I got up and RAN the rest of the way up those stairs! I rushed inside and slammed the door. I was actually a little angry. I was still married to my first husband back then and he gave me this look of "What the heck got into YOU?". Well, the reason why I was a little angry was because this old "close friend of the family" also happened to have been my track coach in high school. And he was always very hard on me. (I use to be a national and state track champion in sprints). So when I had heard his voice in my ear telling me to "Just do it", I got a little angry, saying "Gee whiz! Even from beyond the grave you are still pushing me!" Another time I heard someone...Was in the middle of the night and I woke up to a kind of muffled buzzing noise. Then I heard a voice I recognized. It was a man's voice. He sounded frantic and telling me to "Get up, get out! Get up, get out!" Well, there was no fire but the fire alarms on the outside of the apartment building were sounding. I called 911 and firetrucks came and they checked the building out. They found a faulty alarm. The apartment manager had it fixed by the next day. And the voice that told me to "get up and get out"? It was the voice of a close friend of the family who was a firefighter that had passed the year before. I have had other very bizarre experiences but will tell of those another time. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post John9 Posted August 27, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 I just found this post and I have already said on one of the others about my wife's flowers just appearing the other day in planters where there was nothing there. Well I have had a few other instances too, I have Amazon devices that I had scheduled reminders for my wife to give MIL her evening shot and pills. When my wife died I removed her name so as not to cause issues with MIL and just had it say I'm reminding you... On 2 separate occasions for about a week the reminder has said "John" I'm reminding you... and after a few days it stops and then after a few weeks it started again then stopped. Everyday I am unsure if it is going to happen again and I am the only one who could make changes and I didn't. There was also a "hawk" who landed on the arch over the sidewalk but unfortunately I couldn't get a good picture of it. Signs I'm not sure I just hope it is her because I really need it to be. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members foreverhis Posted August 27, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, John9 said: Signs I'm not sure I just hope it is her because I really need it to be. I couldn’t agree more. That’s why I don’t care what anyone else thinks about it. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Heart&Soul Posted August 28, 2021 Members Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 @John9 Try asking your wife for a specific sign. I have found this works as I have tried it. I asked my husband to send me a sign of an Alfa Romeo Spider convertible but not a red one (as this is too obvious) but an unusual colour. The very next day whilst watching a Dateline show a yellow Alfa Romeo convertible shows up!!!!! I cried because there was my proof. He hears me and is sending me signs.❤ 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post tnd Posted September 3, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 The day Francis came to help me pack and move, I was sitting and packing up bath towels in a box. On top of the stack was a brand new unused hand towel. It was the same brand, fabric and colors of my bath towels but not the same pattern. It had two wide stripes at the bottom whereas the bath towels did not. But because of the fabric and colors it was obviously part of the set. Just wondered where it had been because I hadn't ever seen it before. Then I was looking at it again and it stood right out. One stripe was the color of my husband's bath towels (we had separate colors) and one stripe matched the color of mine! The stripes were "side by side". Looking at me. As if to say, "think again". Well, if I didn't know better, this was a sign from my husband. Don't know if he was helping me pack or saying that he'd go wherever I was going but it made me feel good. Now it's my special towel. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John9 Posted September 3, 2021 Members Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 tnd, Maybe that is your version of my flowers, and you can keep it with you forever too. I am still looking for anything that she wants to send me. She is probably busy right now with her Mom. I miss my wife so much and now it is really different without MIL here even though she wasn't much in the way of talking, she was here. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators KayC Posted September 4, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 @tnd Either way it's a keeper! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John9 Posted September 5, 2021 Members Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 So, yesterday I was cutting the grass and my neighbor came over to talk to me. After we talked for awhile I said to him I don't know how you feel about "signs" or communication from beyond and I told him about the flowers and the Amazon devices and he just gave me the look like I was crazy. I guess that some people don't want to believe but I said I believe it was my wife and nobody will convince me otherwise. MIL's "good" sister said she was talking to her Grandchildren and asked what they believed and none of them did, UNTIL she showed the picture of the flowers AND told them about the devices because when she was over one Sunday around the 7pm reminder I asked her to stay until it happened to prove I wasn't "losing" it and she heard it. After she told her Grandchildren the "facts" they didn't know what to say. I told my son "when" I die I will do everything I can to let him know it is me who is doing whatever I can do to "help" him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators KayC Posted September 5, 2021 Moderators Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 That is so neat, John! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post Ainslie Posted September 10, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 Hi John, I truly believe there are signs everywhere that are loved ones are with us. I read that if you see a dime on the ground it’s your loved one saying hi. Now every time I go to the store I find one. Last week I saw an A in the clouds and that’s the letter of my husbands first name. And two nights ago I was sitting in are room and had a lamp on and asked if he could hear me to show me a sign and the lamp flickered a couple of times. So yes I truly believe there are signs. I don’t care what others believe but I believe that they can see and hear us. Keep believing John. Hugs 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Popular Post John9 Posted September 20, 2021 Members Popular Post Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 I posted this elsewhere today but, I am not doing well today and after I showered this morning I was crying and talking to my wife and I asked her to tell me if she still loved me. When I went into the Living Room the next song that played on the radio was "You Are Not Alone by Michael Jackson" was it a message from her I don't know but I choose to believe it was because that is what I need to believe right now. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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