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Visions before dying

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Hello,

Just joined and not sure if this is the right place to post, but thought I'd give it a try...

My mom passed away less than three weeks ago, on Christmas day. I miss her every moment of every day.

The reason I'm posting here is that I was wondering if anyone has/had any experience with their loved one having visions before dying?

My mom was sick with emphysema for quite some time and went on hospice in October. As she became more ill - into December, she started seeing things. Because her medications had been slowly increasing, we chalked it up to her meds.

Most of her visions were of children. She knew they weren't "real", that we couldn't see them, but she was adament that they were there - if that makes any sense. She usually described the children as cute little street urchins, dirty little kids or just little children. I got the feeling she meant they were "Spanky and Our Gang" types of kids.

Anyway, as her time neared, she would wake and although she had difficulty breathing and talking, she would wave to "nothing" and smile. I or my sister would ask her if she was seeing someone and she would smile and nod, usually squeaking out "the little one over there" or something like that.

As I mentioned earlier, she died on Christmas day, surrounded by her three children and her God-daughter - surely the saddest day in my life.

Five days after her death, a friend of hers called my sister to offer condolences and told her that she had a dream about my mother. That Mom was surrounded by children, was playing with them and was laughing and having a wonderful time. This woman would have had NO idea about my mothers visions of children.

I am SO sorry this has been so long winded... I guess my point or question is this - does anyone know anything about visions of children specifically prior to death? I'm very curious to know if others have had this experience.

Thanks to anyone who's managed to read this far!

 

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Hi.  My mother died a little over 4 years ago in a nursing home/assisted living center with pancreatic cancer.  The last month I stayed with her almost day and night.  When I wasn't with her, my brother and sister-in-law were with her.  She "saw" many things and people before her death during those last few weeks.  One time she was waving at someone.  When my sister-in-law asked her who she was waving at, she said it was my father and my two brothers who had died as children.  She said they were waiting for her.  She also saw an angel once.  The nurses in the nursing home said she was having "hallucinations" caused by the meds, but as you will read on this website, many people have these "hallucinations" before death.  I am convinced she was actually seeing people and not having hallucinations.  Many nurses and hospice workers will testify to their patients having these visions before death.  I don't know why it is often dismissed as hallucinations, but I believe they're real.  Interesting and fascinating topic.

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DianeS   

I was a Hospice volunteer for a number of years and during the training sessions we were told that it is very common for those who are near death to see and often speak to loved ones who have died.  I don't know if this can be explained, but I am often reminded of accounts of those who have had near death experiences.  They speak of the "tunnel of light" and how there are often loved ones along that tunnel.  There are those who will say it an halucination, but even if that's true, I say who cares!  If it brings them comfort as they get close to death, I think it's wonderful. 

My youngest brother died nine months before my mom and in the last hours of her life she often said, "Is Ron here yet?"  She was quite lucid and talking to us up until a couple of hours before she died.  About an hour before she lost consciousness she turned her head to the left, stared at a particular spot in the corner for a minute or so and then smiled the most peaceful smile I've ever seen.  After that moment she never asked about Ron again.  I like to think that she saw him.  Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but I know that it helped her relax and pass over to the next life with amazing peace.  It was wonderful to witness.

DianeS

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My Grandfather saw my Grandmother on a white horse just before he passed away.  She passed away before I was born.  He also said he saw his brother's and some other's that had already crossed over in those last days.  Doctor's and Nurse's there also passed it off as being "hallucionations" .  I think this kind of thing happens to ofen and simular to just be a hallucionation.  But I think it's great that they see this stuff, because it is apparent that they have peace before going on.  And who wouldn't want that?

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sheela   

my mother was ill with CHF and lung failure for like 13 years or longer i think that it went undiagnosed. i took care of her till the very end litterally. the home care hospice left and i took care of her for one day starting @ about 8:00 pm till 10:32 the next morning when she died. i was all alone here with her. i was in a different universe. thats what your mind does to help you i think. i was moving thru the motions but i wasnt still in my body i was just watching myself do everything. i cant explain it but it was so very hard.

 

anyhow before she died like a week before when she was sliping in and out of it,

i asked her do you see  your parents and your grands parents etc ? and was to out of it to speak but was able to gently nod her head yes. i know they were there to take her home. i know they watch me and the others care for her and show as much love and kindness to her as possible bc she was out of it at times and at other times was barely cognitive. there was one day when she was with it enough to speak a little bit not much.

yes i think we go to somewhere when we die either a good place or a bad one.. all the athiest out there may think if they want to please dont be offended here at all but they can think that we die and become trees if they want to. but i believe in something higher and better than what we are now. something that we become with God.  a whole person with no limits or illness etc. you know what i mean. i know God exist's i have spoken to him in my dreams and he has answered me, he is so powerful and magical and controls everything.

it has taken me time to heal it has been like maybe almost 9 months now she died in the beginning of june, and i am starting to go to church every sunday again and am enjoying it some. i am looking forword to moving on as much as is possible after such a humongous, tremedous loss.

yesterday and today i thought to myself its ok to go mom to heaven bc i wasnt able or ready to let her go before. but now i am more able to think its ok mom be at peace i will be ok somehow till we meet again. those moments are short lived but they are there. i will always miss and love her so much but i know she is in great health and is having fun riding horses and singing and laughing again and is probably on a beach somewhere pretty. just seeing her there on a beach like this lady brings me peace i know this letter is so long i am sorry but i had to talk a minute.

i will post a picture in a minute of what i mean

 

 

 

 

 

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mamabets   

For sheela~ AMEN...There is a place, for sure, and pictures like this absolutely and positively prove it...

I am usually at Loss of a Child/Loss of an Adult Child here. Beyond Indigo has helped me so much over the past 3 1/2 years...

God Bless You...My son, Danny, was 25 years old when he departed from this world and moved into his next. His signs have been truly amazing, as he was and still is.

Please, go visit his website and look at all of the photos...

http://www.daniel-pallick.memory-of.com

You will get to know him and his great family after you hang out with him awhile!

LOVE

mamabets

 

 

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SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS,BUT I COULD'NT JUST SIT BY KNOWING THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS AND NOT SAYING ANYTHING. WHAT HE SAW WERE "DEMONS" PRETENDING TO BE LOVED ONES.REMEMBER WHAT THE BIBLE SAY'S, THAT SATAN IS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT,HE HAS POWER. REMEMBER KING SAUL? HE WAS'NT SERVING GOD AND GOD WAS'NT SPEAKING TO HIM, SO HE WENT TO A SPIRITIST (MEDIUM,PALM READER ETC) AND SHE CALLED UP A "DEMON " PRETENDING TO BE THE "PROPHET SAMUEL". THEN THER IS THE STORY OF LASUARUS, A POOR MAN WHO PASSED AWAY ALONG WITH A RICH MAN WHO HAD THE OPPURTUNITY TO HELP HIM BUT DID'NT. THEY BOTH DIE AND ONE GOES TO HELL AND LASAURUS TO THE BOSSOM OF ABRAHAM AND THE RICH MAN ASKS ABRAHAM IF HE COULD GET A CUP OF WATER BECAUSE IT IS HOT AND MISERABLE WERE HE'S AT AND HE IS TOLD THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR THERE IS A CHASM BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM AND NO ONE FROM THERE CAN COME TO WERE HE IS AND VICE VERSA, THEN THE RICH MAN ASK'S IF HE CAN GO BACK AND WARN HIS FAMILY, SO THEY WOULD'NT HAVE TO COME TO SUCH A PLACE AND HE IS TOLD" THAT IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE,THAT EVEN IF HE DID THEY WOULD NOT BELIEVE AND THAT GOD HAD GIVEN HIS BIBLE AND SENT HIS PROPHETS TO WARN PEOPLE SO THEY SHOULD BELIEVE IN HIM.

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mikesmum   

[user=19406]johnnyg58[/user] wrote:

SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS,BUT I COULD'NT JUST SIT BY KNOWING THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS AND NOT SAYING ANYTHING. WHAT HE SAW WERE "DEMONS" PRETENDING TO BE LOVED ONES.REMEMBER WHAT THE BIBLE SAY'S, THAT SATAN IS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT,HE HAS POWER. REMEMBER KING SAUL? HE WAS'NT SERVING GOD AND GOD WAS'NT SPEAKING TO HIM, SO HE WENT TO A SPIRITIST (MEDIUM,PALM READER ETC) AND SHE CALLED UP A "DEMON " PRETENDING TO BE THE "PROPHET SAMUEL". THEN THER IS THE STORY OF LASUARUS, A POOR MAN WHO PASSED AWAY ALONG WITH A RICH MAN WHO HAD THE OPPURTUNITY TO HELP HIM BUT DID'NT. THEY BOTH DIE AND ONE GOES TO HELL AND LASAURUS TO THE BOSSOM OF ABRAHAM AND THE RICH MAN ASKS ABRAHAM IF HE COULD GET A CUP OF WATER BECAUSE IT IS HOT AND MISERABLE WERE HE'S AT AND HE IS TOLD THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR THERE IS A CHASM BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM AND NO ONE FROM THERE CAN COME TO WERE HE IS AND VICE VERSA, THEN THE RICH MAN ASK'S IF HE CAN GO BACK AND WARN HIS FAMILY, SO THEY WOULD'NT HAVE TO COME TO SUCH A PLACE AND HE IS TOLD" THAT IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE,THAT EVEN IF HE DID THEY WOULD NOT BELIEVE AND THAT GOD HAD GIVEN HIS BIBLE AND SENT HIS PROPHETS TO WARN PEOPLE SO THEY SHOULD BELIEVE IN HIM.

I am not sure where this is coming from....have you experienced a loss? 

Your comment - BUT I COULD'NT JUST SIT BY KNOWING THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS AND NOT SAYING ANYTHING. Firstly, knowing the truth? By experience, or by stories of old told through the ages?

Your beliefs are so strong and seem to be based in the old Testament......You may find your postings would be better received and understood on the thread -  Grief & Healing from a Christian-Biblical Worldview Page:

As far a visions and such......I nursed my mother in her last weeks.  We sat, I massaged her hands and feet to gain some peace for her.....she never quite settled until my brother was in the room.....in those last days, she would call him Albie (my dad was Albert).  She would hold Bills hand and be calm.  In her final hours she called to Albie to many times......her aggitation settling once she 'saw him'. 

I always acknowledge the strength of faith, the ability of those who 'believe' to overcome much...But comments such as the one above tend to lose the impact of that faith, they evoke a believe or be damned approach that I never understood.......

To those who posted in the spirit of this thread......keep the stories coming....faith and belief can take many forms.....for me, my son has left his earthly being and taken his light and energy to a higher plane........no longer fearful of pain, despair and other human frailties. Not lead or tricked by 'the enemy' but welcomed by those gone before whose energy lit the way for his journey.

Sheela - I think that might by my son on the beach......dark hair.....taking in the sun, sea and wind.......thank you so much.......

As for seeing our loved ones after death......I have one such "visit/dream' that truly touched me and turned my grieving around.  Short version, Mike was sitting in a bright white room, I could barely make him out given the light, but someone (no idea who) suggested looking for the bump on his nose, broken as a young boy.....I came closer and Mike smiled.....the bump was there......It was for me so real, and gave me a calmness that had been lacking in my life for the past year........Fact? Fiction? Real or wishful thinking.....I don't profess to have the answers....but for me....it was so real, he looked straight at me and smiled........

.........Blessed Be....Trudi

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AGAIN, DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY,I MYSELF HAVE HAD LOVED ONE'S THAT HAD PAST AWAY AND COME TO ME IN A DREAM,BUT IKNOW WHAT THE BIBLE SAY'S AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE DEMON'S,WHEATHER YOU WANT TO DELUDE YOURSELF IS UP TO YOU! YOU CAN ONLY LEAD A HORSE TO WATER,CAN'T MAKE HIM DRINK. AS IT SAY'S IN THE BIBLE "THE GOD OF THIS WORLD HAS BLINDED YOU THAT YOU MAY NOT SEE". I AGREE THAT IT IS A VERY EMOTIONAL TOPIC AND FEELINGS CAN BE SOMEWHAT INTWINNED,BUT YOU CAN'T GO BY YOUR EXPERIENCE'S ALONE. I'VE SEEN PAST LOVED ONE'S AND EVEN ANGELS BUT DO I BELIEVE THEY WERE OF GOD? NOOOO!!! AND THE WAY I KNOW THIS IS FROM READING MY BIBLE. DID'NT MEAN TO CAUSE SUCH A COMMOTION,I SERIOSLY THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE AT LEAST CHECKED THINGS MORE THROUGHLY BEFORE YOU JUMP THE GUN ON SOMEONE,INSTEAD YOU LET YOU EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU(UNDERSTANDABLE) AS FAR AS FAITH GOE'S ,MUSLUMS HAVE IT, THE DEMONS EVEN BELIEVED IN JESUS THAT MEAN THEY WERE RIGHT JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAITH? YOU CAN HAVE FAITH IN A COW,WHICH SOME DO! DOE'S THAT MAKE IT RIGHT? AGAIN I APOLIGISE IF I OFFENDED YOU,IT'S APPARENT YOU WERE'NT READY FOR THE TRUTH.   JOHN

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i appreciate your feedback and "no' i was'nt trying to be mean or anything but you being a christian also,when did you plan on telling her? or would you have said anything at all?in eze 33 i believe it says "that if the watchman see's danger and doe'snt warn that person , that  person's blood is on the watchman" meaning you ,who are supposed to be "spiritual", seeing a danger(demons pretending to be loved ones)and don't warn them,then you are held accountable and since i just ran across this site and did not know if i would ever see or speak to this women again.when do you suppose i should say something to her? like the stranger on the street,you sometime's don't have that luxuary . if i had waited,who know's where these demons could lead her.if she was in the spirit as you so like to call it,then the holy spirit should have convicted her and ther ewas no "judgement " made , just a clear statement of facts and reference points to show clairity. it also say's that in the last days people will not listen to sound judgement or doctrine but run after whatever tickles their ears, again i did'nt mean to upset anyone but should i have allowed her to believe a lie when i knew the truth ! or maybe wait ,say until it was to late and they deceived her also?                                         john

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mikesmum   

Hey John - I didn't come here to debate, receive or acknowledge the bible, god, demons or such.....I came here because my life altered eternally on January 18th 2007 and this was the one site where my beliefs, social, edcuational or economic standing was irrelevant.

If you want to discuss the matters you write about with such passion, please find a thread/site that welcomes such dialogue.

This thread is for those who want to share, without prejudice or sermon their thoughts, feelings, visions and dreams........

If you have a personal experience that you would like to share, please feel free.

Your previous response was a little confusing to say the least.....to whom were you referring...??

Blessed be

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Hi Trudi, I love the attached image you posted..  Something about angels that now tug at the heart in a deeper way, isn't there?

I thought for a long time and even posted a couple of things in response to John.  But after praying about it for a while, God just told me the battle isn't mine.  We have to reserve our energy for the battles worth fighting, you know?  I think John really believes he's doing the right thing, in the right manner.  But one thing I have learned along the way of this journey is humility.  Some people just need greater circumstances and trial in their lives to learn what that truly means.  You know as well as anyone how I have always interjected my faith in areas where I post, and how uncomfortable that has been at times, which did spark a new thread.  But sincerely, I never want to bash people in the head.  I have too many imperfections in my own life and charecter to know that if anyone needs bashing, I should be first in line.

I think there are people out in the world that look for places like these to interject their opinions and feel like they've done their good deed for the day.  Reality is that if they cannot interject something of their heart, something personal of themselves, something that any one person can connect to and relate with, then their words are generally without soul.  Anyone can open a book and recite a verse.  And John's comment, "should i have allowed her to believe...", well it baffles me that people who do believe in the Bible think that they own control over any situation.  If that were the case I wouldn't allow my mother's husband's Alzheimers to be killing her spirit and wrecking their happy lives.  It takes compassion and empathy, both of which Jesus has, to make the words come alive with meaning for someone who is hurting so deeply.  Some people just don't have that gift.  We are probably best to ignore blatant bashing such as what has taken place here.  It truly is an abuse to this board...  Hugs, Claudia

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John, The title of this particular thread is called "visions before dying".  When I first posted here on this thread I had recalled how Steven, as he was being stoned to death, had a vision of heaven opening up to receive him.  I don't believe demons were associated with his vision...biblically referenced.  And who are we to say we know with absolute certainty that God is not the source of a vision given as a last earthly act of mercy upon a dying person?  One thing I have learned about Scripture, it continues to unfold more knowledge and meaning to me as I study over and over again the same passages and cross references.  There was a time when I, like you, was so adamant that I "knew" what something said and there was no bending it.  But I have learned that there is always something to be learned.  We are not God.  We do not know many of the mysteries of God.  We won't know many things on this side of life.  How do you surmise that all people who have visions before dying are seeing demons when God's word explicity describes what happened to Steven as a godly act?  Revelation is a whole book of one man's account of God-given"visions".  The book of Hebrews is chalk full of exhortation in realizing the unseen over what the world shows us.  "We are to keep our eyes fixed on the eternal", it more or less says.  I agree there is a difference in what some are seeing, but there IS and always will be visions and special insights given from God--to the living and to the dying.  I know, because I "see it in progress" almost daily in the work I do.  Are you saying you know more or have more power and ability than God to know for a fact that people cannot see Him, or heaven, or angels of God before dying?  I'm just curious...  Your posts are pretty haughty...  It seems you, like us, are a continued work in progress, and there is much more to learn.  I don't think any of us have all the answers....yet. 

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mikesmum   

Claudia - You are right.  The purpose of being here is to find the understanding and support that affords us the strength to continue our lives. 

The 'spirit' of Beyond Indigo and those within is unconditional care and compassion while on this journey.

To engage in such a 'tirad' of quotes and 'self wisdom' distracts from my reason for being here and confuses the purpose.....so with that thought........

How is being back going?  I noticed you had many visitors on your return.....also, how is Patrick doing.....I find now I have my first year behind me, my vision is returning (metaphorically speaking) and I am learning to live a little....While the loss of Micheal is still predominant in my life, I have found time now for Steven and Melissa (my childen) without being weighed down completely with the cloak of grief..

:D  Trudi

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Trudi, I am glad you are awakening to more relational interraction with your sirviving dear ones.  It takes time for us to feel "life" in our own hearts after what we've been through, and transferring energy that we don;t have to others..  well, that oxymoron speaks for itself.  Patrick is great.  I cherish him.  We talk fairly often.  My mom is having a REALLY hard time...her husband is in advancing stages of Alzheimers and has just in the past couple of days started to have seizures as well.  He's currently hospitalized.  I feel so heartbroken for her, especially hearing her sob as she did when we spoke on the phone earlier this morning.  It tears me up, because I can truly feel that depth of pain, and I know I can do very little but "be there" for her...

I have a visitor coming tomorrow for lunch who is N American and lives here part time, on a nearby farm she owns.  We connected by e-mail last year, but this is our first meeting face to face, and I am pretty excited about that.  I don;t get to meet too many english-speaking people here, except those who visit us from teh States from time to time.  This woman is an anthropologist of sorts, which is what brought here here, I think.  So who knows?  Maybe there will be collaboration on some projects down the road.  A step at a time...  for now, I'm looking forward to the meeting.

Keep being the wonderful support you are for so many here.  It seems like much of the time the only relief we get from our pain is when we feel that something we are doing or saying is helping someone else...at least so it seems to me.  Hugs, Claudia

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DianeS   

There is also a scripture that says that we are "surrounded by a cloud of witnesses."  I like to think that these are loved ones who have gone before us.  I see nothing evil or demonic in those close to death seeing loved ones.  I'd like to think it is maybe God's way of easing us through the transition from life to death, which is often a scary thing for many people.  I think it is a blessing that they are comforted and at peace, leaving those they love here and possibly being led to the other side by those who they have loved and lost.

DianeS

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