Members taurusgirl93 Posted October 19, 2011 Members Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I truly believe that no understands your pain until they go through it. I was having a conversation with a friend and he was being so hurtful. Ok my father was cremated because we couldnt afford to do a body burial. His ashes are getting buried in a cremation grave. The cemetary will not let us have a headstone. Here is the conversation:me: the cemetary wont let me get my dad a headstonehim: Why??me: cuz he was crematedhim: Oh well I guess that makes sinceme: nooohim: Well if there's no body to burry than y do u need a headstoneme: because hes my father and his remains are still there? bodies u bury eventually deterioate.him: Ya but not in to dust I get why u r upset I'm just saying doesnt make much since to be upset that u didnt get a head stone those are usually intended for people who have past and wish to be buried me: he is goin to be buriedhim: Wait ur going to burry ashes?me: yeah.... they are in a buriable boxhim: Hmmm... Ok well lol sorry idk what else to say me: whys tht funny? i want a place where i can go see him. If u keep the ashes then u can lose them, drop them, anythinghim: It's just idk u cremated him to just put him in the ground me: i cremated him because i had no choice. I didnt have the money to bury a body, it cost about $12,000 when cremation is $200. Big difference. Im sorry I failed my father but its the best i could doI probably should have stopped the conversation long before it started upsetting me. Can you even call that a true friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tmeredith Posted October 19, 2011 Members Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I am sorry, Brooke. Some people are just clueless. It is very hurtful. Who knows why people say what they say. You did the best you could which quite frankly I think was pretty darn good! Does the cemetery allow any kind of marker? It doesn't seem right if they don't. I am so sorry. I think you are right, a lot of people just don't understand. Please don't let the ridiculous comments get you down. Take care. Terra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kali shey Posted October 19, 2011 Members Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I truly believe that no understands your pain until they go through it. I was having a conversation with a friend and he was being so hurtful. Ok my father was cremated because we couldnt afford to do a body burial. His ashes are getting buried in a cremation grave. The cemetary will not let us have a headstone. Here is the conversation:me: the cemetary wont let me get my dad a headstonehim: Why??me: cuz he was crematedhim: Oh well I guess that makes sinceme: nooohim: Well if there's no body to burry than y do u need a headstoneme: because hes my father and his remains are still there? bodies u bury eventually deterioate.him: Ya but not in to dust I get why u r upset I'm just saying doesnt make much since to be upset that u didnt get a head stone those are usually intended for people who have past and wish to be buried me: he is goin to be buriedhim: Wait ur going to burry ashes?me: yeah.... they are in a buriable boxhim: Hmmm... Ok well lol sorry idk what else to say me: whys tht funny? i want a place where i can go see him. If u keep the ashes then u can lose them, drop them, anythinghim: It's just idk u cremated him to just put him in the ground me: i cremated him because i had no choice. I didnt have the money to bury a body, it cost about $12,000 when cremation is $200. Big difference. Im sorry I failed my father but its the best i could doI probably should have stopped the conversation long before it started upsetting me. Can you even call that a true friend?My grandfather was cremated and he was allowed a headstone to mark his final resting place. It's really terrible that they won't allow you to get one for your Dad. Have you considered not burying him and keeping his remains in an urn in your home? You can get the container sealed up so that they can't spill if dropped or moved. It seems very wrong to me that they won't allow that...People aren't going to understand unless they've been through this with someone very dear to them. I had a friend tell me (after my Dad passed away) that she knew how I felt, because her Dad died when she was two years old... she barely remembers him, so how does that compare with losing a parent who was there every day for 30+ years? Still tragic, but not the same, by any means. I'm really sorry your friend was so insensitive. My Dad's ashes are at my mom's house, with a small amount I kept in a locket (called an urn pendant) as well as a small amount I had placed in a teddy bear with his voice recorded in it. At Build-A-Bear they will allow you to put a small token (a lock of hair, a small amount of ashes, etc.) inside a stuffed animal, and you can record a voice as well so that when you squeeze the paw (or wherever you place the little recording device) it will play back his voice. I had my Dad's voice on my voice mail still, so I took that in and recorded it. They were really wonderful about it and said they do this for people when their loved ones have passed on all the time. If you want more info you can message me... <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ModKonnie Posted October 20, 2011 Members Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I truly believe that no understands your pain until they go through it. I was having a conversation with a friend and he was being so hurtful. Ok my father was cremated because we couldnt afford to do a body burial. His ashes are getting buried in a cremation grave. The cemetary will not let us have a headstone. Here is the conversation:me: the cemetary wont let me get my dad a headstonehim: Why??me: cuz he was crematedhim: Oh well I guess that makes sinceme: nooohim: Well if there's no body to burry than y do u need a headstoneme: because hes my father and his remains are still there? bodies u bury eventually deterioate.him: Ya but not in to dust I get why u r upset I'm just saying doesnt make much since to be upset that u didnt get a head stone those are usually intended for people who have past and wish to be buried me: he is goin to be buriedhim: Wait ur going to burry ashes?me: yeah.... they are in a buriable boxhim: Hmmm... Ok well lol sorry idk what else to say me: whys tht funny? i want a place where i can go see him. If u keep the ashes then u can lose them, drop them, anythinghim: It's just idk u cremated him to just put him in the ground me: i cremated him because i had no choice. I didnt have the money to bury a body, it cost about $12,000 when cremation is $200. Big difference. Im sorry I failed my father but its the best i could doI probably should have stopped the conversation long before it started upsetting me. Can you even call that a true friend?Brooke,I am sorry about the loss of your father and the misunderstanding between you and your friend. Obviously, she didn't comprehend how important this issue is for you. She didn't seem malicious or anything, just genuinely confused. You didn't fail your father; many people are forced to make this choice. And I mean many. So, have you already buried your father's ashes? Can you look for another cemetery that may allow you to put up a stone? I am sure this is traumatizing on top of the pain you are already experiencing. Hugs to you.ModKonnig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members taurusgirl93 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Members Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 I got it arranged to get a flat military name plate. Its not exactly what I wanted but Im glad they will let me at least put something. We chose that cemetary because it had sentimental value to my father. He was adopted and never found his family. So he was in a foster family with 13 kids. All of the ones that have passed including his foster father are buried there. I guess the compromise wasn't so bad after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members taurusgirl93 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Members Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 I couldn't afford to get a already made necklace to put some of my fathers ashes in so I made my own (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tmeredith Posted October 21, 2011 Members Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Wow, Brooke...the necklace is beautiful. I can't believe you made it. Maybe there is a jewelry business in your future. What a great idea. ~terra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kali shey Posted October 21, 2011 Members Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 That's beautiful and so special because you made it yourself. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Forsaken1 Posted October 24, 2011 Members Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm sorry for your loss too. I totally understand how you feel but you did not fail your father at all. You did what you had to do and I'm sure he knows that. What's important is that you love him and respect your dad. You did good. Dont let your friend make you think otherwise. We had to cremate my dad too for the same reason as you. We just couldn't afford the high cost but my dad is now buried in a military cemetary in Phoenix. Very respectful and he would be proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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